I Think Indoctrinating Children With Religion Is Child Abuse

@gregloa A better question would be what is he afraid of as he is the one deleting others' posts.

@gregloa Why would I be afraid of something that doesn't exist? I just find it amusing that a "trained scientist" and a "qualified theologian" is reduced to childish insults and deleting posts rather than rationally addressing the points made therein.

@suzie1960 you’re afraid or you wouldn’t be worried about it

@gregloa You're projecting. I'm not afraid of non-existent entities like the christian "god" I'm just pointing out the abject stupidity of certain christians.

Why are you here? Are you afraid of what I have to say?

@suzie1960 I’m afraid of God, you are harmless. I’m just speaking up for him, and his son.

@gregloa The post was about indoctrinating schoolchildren with religion. I can't speak for @suzie1960 but believing that it is fundamentally wrong to teach children myths and stories handed down over the ages as fact is motivation enough for me.

@gregloa Isn't your "god" big enough to speak up for itself? You must doubt its existence or certainly its omnipotence if you feel you have to speak up for it.

Why is it that christians like you have to invade Atheists' threads with their BS but get really upset when Atheists comment on christians' threads?

@fazer1k I agree with you. Teaching children about religion is one thing but indoctrinating them with one religion is unacceptable.

@suzie1960 Ever considered this guy might be an alt? 😉

@Quizzical What's an "alt"?

@suzie1960 An alternate account

@Quizzical I hadn't considered that. It's possible but he hasn't resorted to childish insults nor asserted that he must be right because he says he is.

@suzie1960 aren't you doing that yourself? Asserting you're right just because you say you are?

@ChairmanofthePool I don't believe so. What gives you that idea?

There is not a definitive argument for either position. All we can say is that our side is right because the other one doesn't make sense. Which is like saying I'm right because I think so. Do you not think so?

@ChairmanofthePool My research has not given me any reason to believe in the christian god. Some people are adamant it is real but are unable to produce any evidence to support their hypothesis. They often use a circular argument - "The bible says god is real"; "the bible must be true because it is god's word". One could replace "god" with anything else and the claim would be just as invalid.

I see no reason to believe in something for which there is absolutely no evidence. I can be reasonably certain of that because requests to see the evidence are either ignored or met with childish insults.

@gregloa Why should anyone be scared of a figment of your imagination? Your imaginary friend isn't real you know.

@ChairmanofthePool The rational position is non-belief. You are right, neither side can prove their case conclusively but would it be rational to believe in all mythical creatures just because we cannot disprove them? To do that would be irrational, of course.

@fazer1k Rational, again is a relative term. For a believer it would be irrational not to heed the warnings of eternal hell. Trying to avoid that sounds rational to me. I get your point about mythical creatures. At the end it is still the same, I believe in what I do because of what I consider rational to me. So will do the other guy. Which is the same as saying that, like they do, I think I'm right because I say so.

@ChairmanofthePool You feel it's rational to heed the warnings of an eternal hell for which there is no hard evidence at all? To me that is not logical and I am equating logical and rational as going hand-in-hand in the context of this discussion. You are entitled to believe what you like, of course, but to me it just sounds as though religion is controlling you through fear of what will happen if you do not obey its laws.

@ChairmanofthePool Is it rational to risk being denied entry to Valhalla or Fólkvangr or Sto'vo'kor or any of the many other realms of the dead for worshiping the wrong god?

@suzie1960 Ultimately everyone is going to a hell for not believing in someone's god/gods, lol

@Quizzical Good point.