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I Am Not Into Politics

But... I do wonder what it says about this site that so many of them on here seem to be Trump supporters! Or maybe, hopefully, there aren't that many they just shout louder than the rest with their constant hashing and re-hashing libelous claims and gross exaggerations of the truth...

A friend of a friend on FB, and American, said that America maybe deserves Trump. I said no one deserves him.. I guess I was thinking that even tho I can't help but agree that if America are stupid enough to vote for him they deserve all they get, I would NOT want to inflict the resulting suffering on the nice, sane, intelligent Americans that i know exist. But hey ho let's see what happens
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HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
For someone not into politics you have a lot to say about it
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@Adaydreambeliever: did you read my reply to Pink?
TexChik · F
@Adaydreambeliever: typical libtard, on the wrong end of the discussion so now the personal attacks start? An alinski follower ? Your interest in our politics suggest they are also your own .. thus making you a liar ... like most libs
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
@TexChik: you have proven yourself a very ignorant person haven't you.. we have seen you accuse a perfect stranger of being brown eyed... lol only you and other deranged beings know what on earth that means.. but it's sheer loonie tunes to say that about a person who has a picture of a blue eyed blonde... kinda makes you look dumb there my friend.

I have no idea what an Alinski follower is.. you seem to know a lot about it tho so i guess that's your thing?

My interest in your politics shows they are also my own? Erm that was well cryptic wasn't it? I am sure you knew what you meant.. but I sure didn't - factually I made an independent observation about the content of the Trump supporters posts on here.. that most of them engage in non-reasoned debate, preferring insults and presenting accusations as if they were fact - which is illogical and more than a little peculiar and suggests a limitation re intelligence.. YOU did kind of fall into that trap didn't you :P and confirmed it :P
QED as they say.
FreeSpirit1 · 51-55, F
Clinton is a dishonest corrupt politician who will take any position to get elected.
Trump is a bloviating buffoon who donated Money to the Clintons in the past.

We are fucked.
TexChik · F
@Heartlander: care to explain that? Trump is not under investigation but suddenly is guilty of so much ... please tell us what he is guilty of ... other than insulting libs
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@TexChik: As we learned with Bill Clinton and Richard Nixon, the impeachment of a president is a political process, not a criminal process.

Nixon resigned because he knew he couldn't survive an impeachment and senate trial. Bill Clinton survived his trial because there weren't enough senate votes to convict him.

Trump's support in the house and senate is pretty low, thus easily impeachable. Hillary on the other hand is a Democrat, and Democrats behave like a government within the government, and can be expected to fight tooth and nail to keep her in office when she commits her next high crime or misdemeanor.
TexChik · F
@Heartlander: more wishful thinking. The corruption in congress is exactly why we are in trouble as a country. Clinton is already an unindicted felon ... her election would create a constitutional crisis. When laws only pertain to the people and not the government anarchy will ensue , violence will follow ... that's always how socialist governments end
And Gary Johnson is going to show the world that America has one electable person in the presidential election. That is IF Clinton Network News and the rest of the polling people would actually involve him rather than giving the world little sound bites that make him look unelectable. People if you are hating to have to vote for the lesser of two evils, then Google Gary Johnson and see what he stands for. He's the only one that is going to stop the FIVE wars that we're in and bring the troops home to their families. Also is not afraid to send them to war IF Congress declared war on someone. The 5 we are currently in has not been declared by Congress. He is also for actually balancing the budget. Without a tax hike I might add.
I am done with arguing with you. You have no idea about Trump. The only reason he is throwing this election so bad is because he is best friends with the Clinton
TexChik · F
@GentleILDaddy: uh huh ... are you wearing a Tin foil hat ? Smh 🙄😂😂😂
Hell even Ted Cruz would be a better choice than Trump. BTW if you want to know what an isolationist is, it's north Korea.
Hi daydream ... the measured enthusiasm gap between Trump and Hillary voters is more than 25 basis points.... favoring Trump.

Don't know about this site ... the demos of this site favor Hillary ... but even where I am located, the visible on the ground Hillary support is non-existent.

No Hillary signs ... no bumper stickers.

CA and NY have a LOT of Hillary support.

Trump has given voice to the voter ... in return, the voters for Trump are jazzed.

Hillary, is an entire other commodity ... she is counting on loyalists ... and trying to reduce Trump enthusiasm ... an untried, odd political strategy. It should work for her.

It is cool to see all the Trump support ... each has a unique personal reason they favor Trump ... makes for interesting discussions!
@Adaydreambeliever: Hi Dream ... being a Trump supporter, one who never uses 4 letter language ... I am subjected to it constantly ... interestingly, it does not come from Hillary fans ... it is from anti-Trump folks ... many are non-US citizens ... I agree, it does get old.

I can assure you Trump fans are ministers, welders, school teachers, draftsmen, electricians ... young and retired ... really good people.

The media in the US angers us all ... they do not play well with facts and innuendos ... as a result, Trump supporters get weary of silly conversations.

Take for example .... Headline: Trump pays no taxes! ... very misleading ... Trump has released his financials, detailed third party independent audits ... it has all the tax info ... he has paid a ton of taxes.

What does the headline refer to? ... operating losses with his real estate ... is that odd? ... of course not ... that is how real estate is handled ... operating losses while owning them ... big capital gain, when we sell the building 20 years later. Completely normal.

Then people start echoing Taxes ... nobody gets it .. that they were played by the media ... then fights start.

For many Trump folks, it is the media entirely ... but, the way we figure it ... if media told the truth ... Hillary would have nuthin to campaign on.

As to unintelligent ... I will accept that compliment.

Uncivilized? ... I will accept that differentiation too!

Unadmired? ... lol ... you are just sweet talking me!

See ... in the US, we aspire to the Life, Liberty and pursuit of happiness thing ... we generally don't seek a well-ordered society .. individualism is prized ... that is why we innovate so much!

We have no desire to be considered intellectual, civil or admired ... we like just being US!

Hillary did us all a favor when she labeled 50% of the US as deplorables ... this was way cool! ... we have identity now.

Trump has tapped into Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness ... and us deplorables are totally jazzed!
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
@questionWeaver: did I use the word unadmired? I wouldn't have thought it one of mine :P I listen to your words because they are sane and reasoning and as such they make a difference.. THIS is what i need.. I need to see that there are sane Trump supporters out there, lol even if they are a bit misguided :P I am especially glad to hear that, "can assure you Trump fans are ministers, welders, school teachers, draftsmen, electricians ... young and retired ... really good people."
Can you see how from my perspective, when all I see are the insulting, kinda rabid kind, one could be forgiven for thinking that is how they are? They do themselves a disservice.

LOl re the innovation.. I have heard, many a time, that many Brit inventors go to the US cos the UK won't invest in them or their ideas - perhaps a good many of your innovators are Brits :P

I've no objection to live live laugh but important to make sure that it doesnt impede other's right to do same.. and there *are* many policies which may well impede the rights of some there.. that would worry me.

If all Trump supporters were like you I wouldn't have to keep whining about Trump supporters 😇
@Adaydreambeliever: Thank you daydream .... sane is good ... yes a lot of Brits and Canadians are busy innovating things here ... I want to see more of it!

My land engineer works here, but calls Scotland home ... am fascinated by that.

Lol ... us Trump folks are all about not impinging on the rights of others ... we don't want anybody impinged on!

You have made me smile ...
TexChik · F
You are not into politics, yet you are clearly in the tank for one candidate and insult the other and his supporters ... obviously a false statement... just like the libs make!
Enchanted · 56-60, F
Ummm you can argue with EVERYONE in the world...but you are fuc$&& either way!!!!!
TexChik · F
@CoraLee: one is corrupt and greedy . The other doesn't take any crap and can't be bought.
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
lol i have no wish to insult anyone here and i am trying my very best here to at all times remain reasonable.. but.. lol did you read the comment above where i said that I DID SAY i am not into politics BUT>. do you perhaps understand the irony of the addition of BUT there?
SO tell me.. what does in the tank mean? I commented that I am only seeing accusations and insults here from the Trump supporters on here.. if i did a straw poll how many examples of comments from Hilary supporters against Trump would i see? And factually HOW MANY times have we seen Hilary re tweet accusations of rape etc against Trump? Calm down my dear I am commenting only on what is reflected here.. if you think i am wrong please give examples... I am happy to learn.. but make very sure you don't deteriorate into insults as that is not an argument that has credibility
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
One thing to do is examine your decision making paradigm. Why do you vote for a particular candidate?
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
@HoraceGreenley: ahh now that I couldnt say as i don't know the policy deals in depth.. I CAN say that the policy, if it is such to opt out of climate change responsibility would alone, even without the behaviour, make me not vote for Trump.. I only judge on what i see. i have no pre-agenda.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@Adaydreambeliever: so you mostly identify with liberal values and policy
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
@HoraceGreenleyWas that a statement? An accusation? Or a question? I am afraid we don't use those terms in that way where I am from.. and we don't pit one against the other - we don't see things in black and white terms in that way and we don't all hate each other and think of those who disagree as the bad guy/oppositional.. A very belated reply as I didn't see this until now (that's a particular difficulty for me as I just don't have the time to follow up on old posts) s
Invisible · 26-30, M
Among the older crowd, I think Trump supporters form a majority.
I don't think Hillary's any better.
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
Well being reasonable lol I would not necessarily disagree with you.. it remains baffling and sad that it seems that choosing one or the other is like choosing a rock and a hard place.
TexChik · F
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The meme really says it all. The left has become the scourge of political corruption ... nothing they say can be trusted , everything they say is hypocritical. Thanks to obama the country is divided and the left not trust worthy . Do we deserve Trump ? I ...hope so... we have supported him for 18 long months 👍
fazer1k · 56-60, M
The March of the Trumpettes, maybe? Lol.
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
Seee... this is what i mean.. why does there have to be insults and nastiness. Is this what Americans are like or?? I dont get it.. No need for insults
TexChik · F
@Adaydreambeliever: please .., you are a hypocritical pompous windbag... your post was an intended insult to Trump supporters Brit
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
@TexChik Your understanding of English is clearly very poor if you read a perfectly reasonable post observing a phenomenon and in your mind twist it into something else... but that's your problem and one we know is a constant difficulty for many TRump supporters.
I've only just seen this.. which is my main problem on here; unlike some who seem to have nothing to do all day, I have a lot less time so am not able follow up and keep following up old posts.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
Every election is a referendum on the previous administration.
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