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Simonbi · 70-79, M
Beautifully said.
Candie · F
i dont agree. read them all and find your truth. (or as much as you can) books contain wisdom. there is such a thing as gathered wisdom straight from your inner voice but to expect people to just know without mental/physical/spiritual guidance is pretty silly. i mean the way you are saying it, a baby that never hears a voice or reads a book or learns a language or whatever would know its way through the complexities of life. imean, yeah way back in the day say like the Native Americans, they had their wisdom but it was spoken. Much probably learned though observation, dreams and such but nowadays its much more difficult. books and teachings offer higher concepts for your mind to come to understand. of course this is just one approach. i like the 4 paths of yoga approach to find your own personal way
Yoga philosophy explains four paths:
Bhakti Yoga
Jnana Yoga
Raja Yoga
Karma Yoga
These four paths of yoga are not necessarily separate from each other. All four paths of yoga can be practiced alone or in combination with each other. None of these paths is ‘better’ or ‘more noble’ than the other and they all lead to the same destination.
Read on for a breakdown of each of the four paths of yoga, along with examples on how to practice each path in your daily life.
https://www.yogiapproved.com/yoga/four-paths-of-yoga/ (here's one fairly random article on it.)
https://arogyayogaschool.com/blog/the-four-paths-of-yoga/ (this article looks clearer to me)
Yoga philosophy explains four paths:
Bhakti Yoga
Jnana Yoga
Raja Yoga
Karma Yoga
These four paths of yoga are not necessarily separate from each other. All four paths of yoga can be practiced alone or in combination with each other. None of these paths is ‘better’ or ‘more noble’ than the other and they all lead to the same destination.
Read on for a breakdown of each of the four paths of yoga, along with examples on how to practice each path in your daily life.
https://www.yogiapproved.com/yoga/four-paths-of-yoga/ (here's one fairly random article on it.)
https://arogyayogaschool.com/blog/the-four-paths-of-yoga/ (this article looks clearer to me)
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Candie · F
@in10RjFox well, the advent of the internet has changed things alot. so my perspective is probably a lot different and I learned a lot in a place rich with texts that probably arent so readily available to browse and pick up. so i guess when your choices of clothes are limited then it can be no fun. thats probably why the world is going what seems to me to be fairly badly. but that is my perspective in what I see. i can understand the desire to reject learned knowledge or wisdom and want to go straight to the source but i think all that does in general or for the most part is create a void. our minds are filled with images and the things we see which are probably often manipulated into making us view the world or ourselves a certain way. to fall prey to that is sad. people need to think with their own minds and I think books aid in that regard. not saying teh OP's message cant work for some but I'd think it wouldnt be practical for most.
@Candie Now you are talking practical and ground level.
Internet, and the way we are communicating and exchanging thoughts now ..is entirely new as compared to the days when such books were written. But whatever be, it only their take or hypothesis during their time .. which in my analysis is completely outdated.
But what is important is questioning arguments and analysis for that's the only way to attain wisdom. Knowledge through books gives room for a lot of assumptions and such people only quote books for reference and as proof, but never get to experience, for they impede the intellect from developing.
Start to question the gender and the hoods and the roles .. only then we can know how the philosophers got it wrong and laid the foundation for all our suffering today.
Ever felt such communication through internet as inner voice ? Imagine someone watching you just meddling with your phone .. and find it as you arguing with your own inner self ? 😀😀
Difference between a static book vs dynamic book that gets written as you read!.. a book that you can argue with!
Internet, and the way we are communicating and exchanging thoughts now ..is entirely new as compared to the days when such books were written. But whatever be, it only their take or hypothesis during their time .. which in my analysis is completely outdated.
But what is important is questioning arguments and analysis for that's the only way to attain wisdom. Knowledge through books gives room for a lot of assumptions and such people only quote books for reference and as proof, but never get to experience, for they impede the intellect from developing.
Start to question the gender and the hoods and the roles .. only then we can know how the philosophers got it wrong and laid the foundation for all our suffering today.
Ever felt such communication through internet as inner voice ? Imagine someone watching you just meddling with your phone .. and find it as you arguing with your own inner self ? 😀😀
Difference between a static book vs dynamic book that gets written as you read!.. a book that you can argue with!
Kae20 · 61-69, F
@Candie
"to expect people to just know without mental/physical/spiritual guidance is pretty silly. i mean the way you are saying it, a baby that never hears a voice or reads a book or learns a language or whatever would know its way through the complexities of life "
Interestingly in terms of drawing on ones 'Conceience' a child below the age of six is quite reasonably Not expected to be mentally or spiritually learned or mature enough to be held responsible for his or her actions.
However even without social conditioning after the age of six . There is sufficient evidence to demonstrate that in terms of knowing what is basically right or wrong.
A seven year old is instinctively capable of just knowing. Even though they may not all have been party to gleening chapters of wisdom from books.
Our "Conceience" is Intrinsict the more we utilise this the more we
Deepen our Spritual growth .
"to expect people to just know without mental/physical/spiritual guidance is pretty silly. i mean the way you are saying it, a baby that never hears a voice or reads a book or learns a language or whatever would know its way through the complexities of life "
Interestingly in terms of drawing on ones 'Conceience' a child below the age of six is quite reasonably Not expected to be mentally or spiritually learned or mature enough to be held responsible for his or her actions.
However even without social conditioning after the age of six . There is sufficient evidence to demonstrate that in terms of knowing what is basically right or wrong.
A seven year old is instinctively capable of just knowing. Even though they may not all have been party to gleening chapters of wisdom from books.
Our "Conceience" is Intrinsict the more we utilise this the more we
Deepen our Spritual growth .
Kae20 · 61-69, F
@SW-User 🙂 exactly right, spritually we are each learning and maturing at the pace that is comfortable for us.
The key thing is understand that the answers we need ,arent always handed directly to us. Of course somtimes & quite randomly we will experience a
'blinding moment' of new understanding.
But largely its as you say we should "Search and then make up our minds "
The key thing is understand that the answers we need ,arent always handed directly to us. Of course somtimes & quite randomly we will experience a
'blinding moment' of new understanding.
But largely its as you say we should "Search and then make up our minds "
BlueSkyKing · M
BlueSkyKing · M
@Kae20 Science is a limited method that uses models to explain how nature works. It’s not a position. Far from flawless, it’s just the best we have.
Do you know what the scientific method is? These are the the basics.
Step 1-Question. The "thing" that you want to know. The question you want to answer.
Step 2-Research. Conduct research. Information about the problem.
Step 3-Hypothesis.
Step 4-Experiment. Test the hypothesis.
Step 5-Observations.
Step 6-Results/Conclusion.
Step 7-Communicate. Present/share your results. Replicate.
Has any of your examples gone through these procedures? If so, there should be published results that can be cited.
Do you know what the scientific method is? These are the the basics.
Step 1-Question. The "thing" that you want to know. The question you want to answer.
Step 2-Research. Conduct research. Information about the problem.
Step 3-Hypothesis.
Step 4-Experiment. Test the hypothesis.
Step 5-Observations.
Step 6-Results/Conclusion.
Step 7-Communicate. Present/share your results. Replicate.
Has any of your examples gone through these procedures? If so, there should be published results that can be cited.
Kae20 · 61-69, F
@BlueSkyKing Thank you 😊
I am familiar with the process applied to Scientific method.
This is an example of the scientific study of an OBE (out of body experience)
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2014.00070/full
It is one example of the 'many' scientific studies which each conclude a change in brain function during the OBE.
But this is not the point of my argument - which is Science acknowledges such Phenomena exists yet as been unable to date to actually quantify the individuals experience in Its entirety.
In a nutshell science is aware of the Unknown and can 'quantify' some aspect's as in this individual study shows .
But Can offer No FULL Explanation for the existence of such and other related Occurrences.
It is exactly has you say -
I am familiar with the process applied to Scientific method.
This is an example of the scientific study of an OBE (out of body experience)
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2014.00070/full
It is one example of the 'many' scientific studies which each conclude a change in brain function during the OBE.
But this is not the point of my argument - which is Science acknowledges such Phenomena exists yet as been unable to date to actually quantify the individuals experience in Its entirety.
In a nutshell science is aware of the Unknown and can 'quantify' some aspect's as in this individual study shows .
But Can offer No FULL Explanation for the existence of such and other related Occurrences.
It is exactly has you say -
Science is a limited method
I agree
BlueSkyKing · M
@Kae20 Thanks for the article on one unique woman. Obviously there are no large scale controlled replications.
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HijabaDabbaDoo · F
Kae20 · 61-69, F
@HijabaDabbaDoo Okay, which bit? 🙂
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
The books you read/study can help form a basis for personal beliefs that will further develop through experience in the real world. Hopefully by evaluating what you experience in reality and what your forebears went through, you will develop your own ethos.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
The western Bible was written mostly by old men, as part of writing down an oral history. As a work of human writing it is very interesting, and reflects thousands of years of human "evolution." I respect the ethics and history, but also don't take them as literally as the ultra religious.
2cool4school · 46-50, F
I hope that I always do follow my conscience. I know I strive to and in many ways I feel like I have to or I’m betraying myself first and foremost.
ABCDEF7 · M
A simple question.
Why every mature human is not spiritual?
Why every mature human is not spiritual?
SW-User
Everyone's truth is different
Because physically or even Metaphorically speaking if one is Deaf, Dumb, Dyslexic, Blind . How can any of these books teach?
Perfect way to question any belief that is followed blindly. All of these religious material, are nothing but programming human behaviour using the feature of read & obey ability present in humans.
They tried on animals but it never worked..😂😂. You can't put a sign board to animals saying "Stop" "Turn right" etc.
Spirituality is still an unexplored subject.
@Kae20 you are welcome .. another one you may like is my observation about books as liquor bottles. Once consumed the content starts to affect bringing out a behaviour and makes us unruly.
And I ask, why people show-off their books in a book shelf when they are supposed to have read most of them, which is like displaying all empty bottles of liquor.
And I ask, why people show-off their books in a book shelf when they are supposed to have read most of them, which is like displaying all empty bottles of liquor.