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Why are there two DIFFERENT versions of the 10 commandments? Exodus 20:2-17 and Exodus 34:10-26 (which is written in God's own hand) [Spirituality & Religion]

There's a little bit of overlap but the second version seems even more human created than the first, yes?

[i][c=#BF0000]1) Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land; for when they prostitute themselves to their gods and sacrifice to them, they will invite you and you will eat their sacrifices. 16 And when you choose some of their daughters as wives for your sons and those daughters prostitute themselves to their gods, they will lead your sons to do the same.

2) “Do not make any idols.

3) “Celebrate the Festival of Unleavened Bread. For seven days eat bread made without yeast, as I commanded you. Do this at the appointed time in the month of Aviv, for in that month you came out of Egypt.

4) The first offspring of every womb belongs to me, including all the firstborn males of your livestock, whether from herd or flock. 20 Redeem the firstborn donkey with a lamb, but if you do not redeem it, break its neck. Redeem all your firstborn sons.

5) No one is to appear before me empty-handed.

6) “Six days you shall labor, but on the seventh day you shall rest; even during the plowing season and harvest you must rest.

7) “Celebrate the Festival of Weeks with the firstfruits of the wheat harvest, and the Festival of Ingathering at the turn of the year.[b] 23 Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Sovereign Lord, the God of Israel. 24 I will drive out nations before you and enlarge your territory, and no one will covet your land when you go up three times each year to appear before the Lord your God.

8) “Do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast, and do not let any of the sacrifice from the Passover Festival remain until morning.

9) “Bring the best of the firstfruits of your soil to the house of the Lord your God.

10) “Do not cook a young goat in its mother[/c][/i]’s milk.”
Carazaa · F
You didn't exactly copy that correctly did you Pikachu?

[b]Here is the correct copy from the Bible Exodus 34:10
[/b]
[b]The LORD Renews the Covenant

10And the LORD said, “Behold, I am making a covenant. Before all your people I will perform wonders that have never been done in any nation in all the world. All the people among whom you live will see the LORD’s work, for it is an awesome thing that I am doing with you.11Observe what I command you this day. I will drive out before you the Amorites, Canaanites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites.…"[/b]


!. This is the story for us how God helps the helpless. The Israelites were slaves and helpless, so God heard their cries and saved them, The stories are amazing how God did miracles for them. Made weak powerless men and women powerful with his help and defeated the evil enemies all around them with his help. AMAZING STUFF!

2. God gave the [b]Israelites[/b] many rituals to follow, each festival had significant meaning for them at the time but also pointing to the end times for us to understand since it is a story of sin and redemption, over and over by the blood of the lamb that takes away the sins of the world, Jesus. Each word has significance (yeast stands for the ungodly), each number has meaning, each persons life shows us a story. We can't understand Gods word until we study it. He wants us to "search out the meaning"

3. There are usually at least 2 accounts of important events in the Bible, and sometimes 3 or 4 so we get a better understanding. Genesis is an example, the first account is a summary, the second, details usually left out in the first account. It's kind of like a great thesis. You catch the readers attention, you summarize what you [i]will[/i] be discussing, then and you state details, and then you summarize what you just said again.

4. The Bible also talks about 2 witnesses, so an account often has 2 or more people witnessing it happened. It's an amazing book, the most respected in the entire world. That's why its so ridiculous when people mock it, and don't understand it. They might be very well read, even have a PHD in theology, but they just don't [i]like[/i] the commands from God. It is our own sins that get in the way of liking the Bible. Because God tells us the truth! And the truth is not always pretty!
Carazaa · F
@Pikachu I told you I was going to complete my answer, and I did above here. You might not have seen the additions. I just get a feeling you are mostly here for mocking the Bible with your questions not searching it out or really interested in truth.
@Carazaa

I'm sorry to say that i'm not totally following what you're trying to say here.
Are you trying to get across that the bible makes it sound like the things listed in Exodus 34 are supposed to be the same commandments previously given but that actually it's not describing what god wrote on the second set of tablets?

Ain't no mockery here. When i think i see a contradiction or find a story problematic then i talk about it.
I should've hoped you knew that about me by now.
Carazaa · F
@Pikachu I'm just answering why God repeats stories a few times above, and my take on the additions. I also posted 2 other comments earlier today about 7 hrs ago to you summarizing on the dinosaurs research, and the video you sent on your Noahs flood post.
QueenOfZaun · 26-30, F
God’s infallible will sure seems to get edited by men a lot
@QueenOfZaun

Don't it just lol
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
There isn't.
@LoveTriumphsOverHate

Why are we saying that the proclamation earlier in exodus is what was written on the tablets and not the proclamation later?
LoveTriumphsOverHate · 36-40, M
@Pikachu

1) We can be sure that the 10 commandments are those in Exodus 20 because Jesus Christ mentioned 6 of the 10 commandments in Mark 10:19, and he called them "the commandments."

2) Josephus writes (Book III Chapter 5, The Antiquities of the Jews):

And they all heard a voice that came
to all of them from above, insomuch that no one of these words
escaped them, which Moses wrote on two tables; which it is not
lawful for us to set down directly, but their import we will declare
5. The first commandment teaches us that there is but one God, and
that we ought to worship him only. The second commands us not to
make the image of any living creature to worship it. The third, that we
must not swear by God in a false matter. The fourth, that we must
keep the seventh day, by resting from all sorts of work. The fifth, that
we must honor our parents. The sixth that we must abstain from
murder. The seventh that we must not commit adultery. The eighth,
that we must not be guilty of theft. The ninth, that we must not bear
false witness. The tenth, that we must not admit of the desire of any
thing that is another's.

3) What many non-Christians fail to grasp is that the church has been established for nearly 2000 years. Interpretations and doctrines have been passed down for generations. It is certain that the church should know what the 10 commandments are because this information has been passed down for generations.
@LoveTriumphsOverHate

Well ok, i guess in the first version it does explicitly say that those were the words that he wrote.
Exodus 34 is a little misleading though i think.
Also where did Moses get the tablets in the first place if they were lost in the wilderness? Let alone a second set? I doubt there were many stone cutters in the area.
@canusernamebemyusername

lol Moses had a life before becoming a prophet, OKAY?
Entwistle · 56-60, M
@GodSpeed63 Why were they written on tablets of stone?
Why not on a paper notepad or simply put into people's minds?
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Entwistle [quote]Why were they written on tablets of stone? [/quote]

Stone stood for strength.
adorbz · 26-30, F
half of those sound like a very demanding calendar 🤔
adorbz · 26-30, F
@Pikachu normal commandments: don’t murder
the sequel: eat bread for 7 days
Carazaa · F
@Pikachu They were more detailed and culturally more understandable and relatable for the Israelites but you cut out important parts so it makes little sense the way you summarized it. But that was maybe your whole point.
@Carazaa

If i cut parts out i didn't mean to. I thought i'd copy and pasted the whole thing, minus the first paragraph which i did forget
MarkFree · 61-69, M
Because the whole book is a collection of iron age camp fire stories.

There are also two different creation stories.
@MarkFree

Well that would be my take on it too. But i wonder what the answer is from a religious perspective.
SW-User
What tf version of the bible is this?
@SW-User

I wouldn't if i were you. It's not the best available translation and it was based on less reliable, later manuscripts than versions like the NIV.

But as i said, these commandments exist in all versions of the bible.
Here's the KJV version of Exodus 34:10-26

[quote]Observe thou that which I command thee this day: behold, I drive out before thee the Amorite, and the Canaanite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, and the Hivite, and the Jebusite.

12 Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee:

13 But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves:

14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

15 Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice;

16 And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods.

17 Thou shalt make thee no molten gods.

18 The feast of unleavened bread shalt thou keep. Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, as I commanded thee, in the time of the month Abib: for in the month Abib thou camest out from Egypt.

19 All that openeth the matrix is mine; and every firstling among thy cattle, whether ox or sheep, that is male.

20 But the firstling of an ass thou shalt redeem with a lamb: and if thou redeem him not, then shalt thou break his neck. All the firstborn of thy sons thou shalt redeem. And none shall appear before me empty.

21 Six days thou shalt work, but on the seventh day thou shalt rest: in earing time and in harvest thou shalt rest.

22 And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, of the firstfruits of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year's end.

23 Thrice in the year shall all your menchildren appear before the Lord God, the God of Israel.

24 For I will cast out the nations before thee, and enlarge thy borders: neither shall any man desire thy land, when thou shalt go up to appear before the Lord thy God thrice in the year.

25 Thou shalt not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leaven; neither shall the sacrifice of the feast of the passover be left unto the morning.

26 The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the Lord thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk.[/quote]
SW-User
@Pikachu Nope. Not gonna change it.
Faith comes by hearing, not by reading. A person can't understand just by reading it. It has to be taught by someone who has been given the understanding.
@SW-User

That's fine, you don't have to change it. The KJV, outdated though it is, will still get the main message across. And i've proven to you that those additional commandments exist in the KJV as well.

Now you know and maybe now you can offer an answer to the original question.
Why is their another, more extensive copy in the Egyptian book of the dead? 🤔
DesiDudeJ04 · 26-30, M
God has created us and behaviour is upto us.
DesiDudeJ04 · 26-30, M
@Pikachu
Be happy! ☺️
@DesiDudeJ04

Where is that rule shared?
DesiDudeJ04 · 26-30, M
@Pikachu it's not rule, it's necessary.

 
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