Why are there two DIFFERENT versions of the 10 commandments? Exodus 20:2-17 and Exodus 34:10-26 (which is written in God's own hand) [Spirituality & Religion]

There's a little bit of overlap but the second version seems even more human created than the first, yes?

[i][c=#BF0000]1) Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land; for when they prostitute themselves to their gods and sacrifice to them, they will invite you and you will eat their sacrifices. 16 And when you choose some of their daughters as wives for your sons and those daughters prostitute themselves to their gods, they will lead your sons to do the same.

2) “Do not make any idols.

3) “Celebrate the Festival of Unleavened Bread. For seven days eat bread made without yeast, as I commanded you. Do this at the appointed time in the month of Aviv, for in that month you came out of Egypt.

4) The first offspring of every womb belongs to me, including all the firstborn males of your livestock, whether from herd or flock. 20 Redeem the firstborn donkey with a lamb, but if you do not redeem it, break its neck. Redeem all your firstborn sons.

5) No one is to appear before me empty-handed.

6) “Six days you shall labor, but on the seventh day you shall rest; even during the plowing season and harvest you must rest.

7) “Celebrate the Festival of Weeks with the firstfruits of the wheat harvest, and the Festival of Ingathering at the turn of the year.[b] 23 Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Sovereign Lord, the God of Israel. 24 I will drive out nations before you and enlarge your territory, and no one will covet your land when you go up three times each year to appear before the Lord your God.

8) “Do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast, and do not let any of the sacrifice from the Passover Festival remain until morning.

9) “Bring the best of the firstfruits of your soil to the house of the Lord your God.

10) “Do not cook a young goat in its mother[/c][/i]’s milk.”

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Carazaa · F

You didn't exactly copy that correctly did you Pikachu?

[b]Here is the correct copy from the Bible Exodus 34:10
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[b]The LORD Renews the Covenant

10And the LORD said, “Behold, I am making a covenant. Before all your people I will perform wonders that have never been done in any nation in all the world. All the people among whom you live will see the LORD’s work, for it is an awesome thing that I am doing with you.11Observe what I command you this day. I will drive out before you the Amorites, Canaanites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites.…"[/b]

!. This is the story for us how God helps the helpless. The Israelites were slaves and helpless, so God heard their cries and saved them, The stories are amazing how God did miracles for them. Made weak powerless men and women powerful with his help and defeated the evil enemies all around them with his help. AMAZING STUFF!

2. God gave the [b]Israelites[/b] many rituals to follow, each festival had significant meaning for them at the time but also pointing to the end times for us to understand since it is a story of sin and redemption, over and over by the blood of the lamb that takes away the sins of the world, Jesus. Each word has significance (yeast stands for the ungodly), each number has meaning, each persons life shows us a story. We can't understand Gods word until we study it. He wants us to "search out the meaning"

3. There are usually at least 2 accounts of important events in the Bible, and sometimes 3 or 4 so we get a better understanding. Genesis is an example, the first account is a summary, the second, details usually left out in the first account. It's kind of like a great thesis. You catch the readers attention, you summarize what you [i]will[/i] be discussing, then and you state details, and then you summarize what you just said again.

4. The Bible also talks about 2 witnesses, so an account often has 2 or more people witnessing it happened. It's an amazing book, the most respected in the entire world. That's why its so ridiculous when people mock it, and don't understand it. They might be very well read, even have a PHD in theology, but they just don't [i]like[/i] the commands from God. It is our own sins that get in the way of liking the Bible. Because God tells us the truth! And the truth is not always pretty!

Pikachu

@Carazaa

I think i missed the first paragraph but it's mostly there.
What confuses me is that God said that this stuff here was supposed to be the same thing that was written on the original tablets.

Carazaa · F

@Pikachu Please read why in my explanation!

Pikachu

@Carazaa

Maybe you can be more specific about which part you feel addresses that.

Carazaa · F

@Pikachu "There are usually at least 2 accounts of important events in the Bible, and sometimes 3 or 4 so we get a better understanding. Genesis is an example, the first account is a summary, the second, details usually left out in the first account. It's kind of like a great thesis. You catch the readers attention, you summarize what you will be discussing, then and you state details, and then you summarize what you just said again."

Pikachu

@Carazaa

Yeah i wondered if that was it but rejected it because it didn't seem to explain it.

The first 10 commandments are almost completely dissimilar to the second set.
It's not a matter of rehashing the original 10 and then adding more details.

Carazaa · F

@Pikachu You misinterpreted those as the 10 commandments, they are not!

Pikachu

@Carazaa

Seems like they're pretty different...

Carazaa · F

@Pikachu Right!

Carazaa · F

@Pikachu Actually they [i]are [/i]the same with more detail. This is where God uses more advanced symbolism for us than the first 10, and more simple direction for the Israelites at the time.

Pikachu

@Carazaa

Maybe you can do a bit of a comparison for me showing how things like " Do not cook a young goat in its mother’s milk" are reviewing and expanding on the first 10 commandments.

Carazaa · F

@Pikachu I was going to when I have time!

Pikachu

@Carazaa

Yeah no worries. Take your time.

Carazaa · F

@Pikachu

Please read WHY God repeats all stories 2, 3, or 4 times [i]again,[/i] since you asked again..I added a little note what I take from these verses below.

The LORD Renews the Covenant

!. This is the story for us how God helps the helpless. The Israelites were slaves and helpless, so God heard their cries and saved them, The stories are amazing how God did miracles for them. Made weak powerless men and women powerful with his help and defeated the evil enemies all around them with his help. AMAZING STUFF!

2. God gave the Israelites many rituals to follow, each festival had significant meaning for them at the time but also pointing to the end times for us to understand since it is a story of sin and redemption, over and over by the blood of the lamb that takes away the sins of the world, Jesus. Each word has significance (yeast stands for the ungodly), each number has meaning, each persons life shows us a story. We can't understand Gods word until we study it. He wants us to "search out the meaning"

3. There are usually at least 2 accounts of important events in the Bible, and sometimes 3 or 4 so we get a better understanding. Genesis is an example, the first account is a summary, the second, details usually left out in the first account. It's kind of like a great thesis. You catch the readers attention, you summarize what you will be discussing, then and you state details, and then you summarize what you just said again.

4. The Bible also talks about 2 witnesses, so an account often has 2 or more people witnessing it happened. It's an amazing book, the most respected in the entire world. That's why its so ridiculous when people mock it, and don't understand it. They might be very well read, even have a PHD in theology, but they just don't like the commands from God. It is our own sins that get in the way of liking the Bible. Because God tells us the truth! And the truth is not always pretty!

[b]The Ten Commandments [b]These are general for us to go by.
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And God spoke all these words:

1 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. “You shall have no other gods before[a] me.

2 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.

3 “You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.

4 “Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

5 “Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you.

6 “You shall not murder.

7 “You shall not commit adultery.

8“You shall not steal.

9 “You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.

10 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.”

When the people saw the thunder and lightning and heard the trumpet and saw the mountain in smoke, they trembled with fear. They stayed at a distance 19 and said to Moses, “Speak to us yourself and we will listen. But do not have God speak to us or we will die.”

Moses said to the people, “Do not be afraid. God has come to test you, so that the fear of God will be with you to keep you from sinning.”

The people remained at a distance, while Moses approached the thick darkness where God was.

Idols and Altars
Then the Lord said to Moses, “Tell the Israelites this: ‘You have seen for yourselves that I have spoken to you from heaven: 23 Do not make any gods to be alongside me; do not make for yourselves gods of silver or gods of gold.

“‘Make an altar of earth for me and sacrifice on it your burnt offerings and fellowship offerings, your sheep and goats and your cattle. Wherever I cause my name to be honored, I will come to you and bless you. 25 If you make an altar of stones for me, do not build it with dressed stones, for you will defile it if you use a tool on it. 26 And do not go up to my altar on steps, or your private parts may be exposed.’

[b]The New Stone Tablets[/b]

[b] These are more detailed for us to study, and for the Israelites at the time to go by. The specific directions all point to the slaughtered lamb, Jesus, (and don't cook the GOAT in its mothers milk, is direction for them to be [i]kind[/i] always, It would be hurtful for a mommy goat to smell its baby being cooked in its own milk. Israels sacrifizes stood for the ultimate lamb, Jesus. God the Father watched his son being tortured and it hurt him, but it saved the world. We have a loving God! [/b]

The Lord said to Moses, “Chisel out two stone tablets like the first ones, and I will write on them the words that were on the first tablets, which you broke. 2Be ready in the morning, and then come up on Mount Sinai. Present yourself to me there on top of the mountain. 3No one is to come with you or be seen anywhere on the mountain; not even the flocks and herds may graze in front of the mountain.”

So Moses chiseled out two stone tablets like the first ones and went up Mount Sinai early in the morning, as the Lord had commanded him; and he carried the two stone tablets in his hands. 5Then the Lord came down in the cloud and stood there with him and proclaimed his name, the Lord. 6And he passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, “The Lord, the Lord, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, 7maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children and their children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation.”

Moses bowed to the ground at once and worshiped. 9“Lord,” he said, “if I have found favor in your eyes, then let the Lord go with us. Although this is a stiff-necked people, forgive our wickedness and our sin, and take us as your inheritance.”

1 Then the Lord said: “I am making a covenant with you. Before all your people I will do wonders never before done in any nation in all the world. The people you live among will see how awesome is the work that I, the Lord, will do for you. 11Obey what I command you today. I will drive out before you the Amorites, Canaanites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites. Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land where you are going, or they will be a snare among you. 13Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones and cut down their Asherah poles. [i](Dont be ensnared by things of this world, but honor God and he will help you)
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2 Do not worship any other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God. ([i] He is not meaning jealous in our sense of the word but that we will be blessed if we put him first and he has feelings. He loves us and wants a relationship with him)
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3 “Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land; for when they prostitute themselves to their gods and sacrifice to them, they will invite you and you will eat their sacrifices. 16And when you choose some of their daughters as wives for your sons and those daughters prostitute themselves to their gods, they will lead your sons to do the same. [i]( We are set apart for spiritual things, not to sin and marry the ungodly)[/i]

4 “Do not make any idols.[i](Put nothing before God, not your family, material things, money, nothing)[/i]

5 “Celebrate the Festival of Unleavened Bread. For seven days eat bread made without yeast, as I commanded you. Do this at the appointed time in the month of Aviv, for in that month you came out of Egypt.[i](When we belong to God we are special to God, we are his child, and we are set apart from the world)[/i]

6 “The first offspring of every womb belongs to me, including all the firstborn males of your livestock, whether from herd or flock. 20Redeem the firstborn donkey with a lamb, but if you do not redeem it, break its neck. Redeem all your firstborn sons.
“No one is to appear before me empty-handed.([i]We are to put God first. He takes away from us what we love more than him I think. Give God your best, if something is dirty throw it away, get rid of it.)[/i]

7 “Six days you shall labor, but on the seventh day you shall rest; even during the plowing season and harvest you must rest.( [i]The Israelites were to honor the Sabbath, and the 7th of everything is to be a rest, and the world is divided in 7's. 7x7 =49 and is a special year for us now after Adam going forward until the end I think)
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8 “Celebrate the Festival of Weeks with the firstfruits of the wheat harvest, and the Festival of Ingathering at the turn of the year. 23Three times a year all your men are to appear before the Sovereign Lord, the God of Israel. 24I will drive out nations before you and enlarge your territory, and no one will covet your land when you go up three times each year to appear before the Lord your God. [i](God will help us if we are obedient and put him first)[/i]

9 Do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast, and do not let any of the sacrifice from the Passover Festival remain until morning. [i](yeast stands for the unsaved of the world, keep yourself clean, and trust that I will care for you tomorrow and don't hoard))[/i]

10 “Bring the best of the firstfruits of your soil to the house of the Lord your God. “Do not cook a young goat in its mother’s milk.” ([i] I think a mom of a goat who saw or smelled her young kid being boiled in her own milk would be as torturous for the Goat as God the Father seeing his Son killed, God is compassionate.)[/i]

Then the Lord said to Moses, “Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel.” 28Moses was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant—the Ten Commandments.

Carazaa · F

@Pikachu I told you I was going to complete my answer, and I did above here. You might not have seen the additions. I just get a feeling you are mostly here for mocking the Bible with your questions not searching it out or really interested in truth.

Pikachu

@Carazaa

I'm sorry to say that i'm not totally following what you're trying to say here.
Are you trying to get across that the bible makes it sound like the things listed in Exodus 34 are supposed to be the same commandments previously given but that actually it's not describing what god wrote on the second set of tablets?

Ain't no mockery here. When i think i see a contradiction or find a story problematic then i talk about it.
I should've hoped you knew that about me by now.

Carazaa · F

@Pikachu I'm just answering why God repeats stories a few times above, and my take on the additions. I also posted 2 other comments earlier today about 7 hrs ago to you summarizing on the dinosaurs research, and the video you sent on your Noahs flood post.