So...god already knows what will happen in the future. And god is infallible so that means you can't change it...so does free will actually exist? [Spirituality & Religion]

@GodSpeed63

[quote]Did you not see that I replied to you?[/quote]

Oh i saw that you replied.
But it wasn't an answer.
You copied and pasted your answer and it made no mention of the actual issue i raised with you.

As i said in my other post, if you feel that your answer addressed my question then specifically point out which part you felt answered that question.

Anything BUT a reply to that effect will be recognized for the dishonest stall tactic that it is.

But you can't stall here, guy. There's no time limit so you might as well just man up an answer.

@GodSpeed63 Do you now accept that flood conditions are [b]not[/b] ideal for forming fossils... that in fact flood conditions [b]prevent[/b] fossilisation?

Apparently you want to excuse AIG's duplicity as some sort of error.

Well, OK, let's see if we can find any other errors, shall we?

@Pikachu Copied and pasted without attribution, too. I guess he got that from AIG lol

@Faust76 Man created the suffering because of sin, and angels who chose to rebel against God.

@Pikachu When you say Gods plans, are you aware that you are referencing all his plans in all forms and times and events. Not just in your life. Just stating Gods Plan, is a vague term.

God knows every thought in your head and emotion in your heart, so not likely. But, Gods plans are not dictated by us. Personal plans, as in plans for us, for us are dependent upon our willingness to accept or our denial of him.

Gods plans for this world, the human race, totally out of our hands.

@TwiddlerofThumbs

Can i make a choice which is not already known to god?

@Pikachu I have no idea. Our choices are determined by outside as well as internal factors. I imagine there are only so many options in every given situation. I know he see the outcome of our choices long before we can but I can not say that he always knows where we will choose to go with our lives from the time that we are small.

@SW-User I think I have to agree with you. While I might believe that I have free will, I may well not have. Alternatively, even if I believe that I don't have free will, I well might have it. Just depends on what my underlying belief system is. Also, while I have my perceptions, you have yours and both are equally valid for each of us. It all comes down to belief. At least, that's what I think you are saying.

@Bushranger yeah more or less

@Pikachu You picked the right name Pickatyou...

@GodSpeed63 Makes complete sense🤷‍♀️

@Pikachu [quote]I keep asking you to ask me your question and for some reason you keep refusing.
It's weird.
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If he tells you what his question is, you could answer it. He would then be expected to answer your question but he doesn't have an answer. He dodges it by not telling you what his question is. Simples. ;)

@NortiusMaximus

Oh don't get me wrong. I've played with him enough to know his game.
I just enjoy watching him tap dance😁

@NaturalBeautyQueen "All things work together for good for those who love God" God says

@SW-User I don't think we can understand the mind of God in that way. I believe maybe it's a little like a Dad who takes the kids to the park for a birthday party. He knows how long the party will take, and that everything has to go back home, He wants all his kids to help clean up, but who will help and who wont is up to the kids who decide to listen. If someone is rebellious, than there are consequences, but the job still gets done by the others, and they all get home.

God has told us the final outcome of history. He is asking us to help him spread the gospel, and to love all people. But we do have our own desires that can get us sidetracked. I asked God to give me wisdom and strength to do His will, not mine, so my life is very directed by God. I just want to please Him. I know people who have other desires than for God. He is "jealous" He says in Deutoronomy, and I want to make Him happy, and I want his blessings.

@Carazaa


That's a lovely story carazaa. But did your prayer change god's mind or was that always part of the plan?

@Pikachu We don't know these answers from the Bible, but we know God molds the future and all things work out for good in the end for those who love Him, His name will be glorified even if we take a wrong turn and go astray. He wants his gospel to go out, but we do not have to go to Africa if we don't feel like it. God will just send someone else instead.

@Pikachu [quote]was that always part of the plan?[/quote]
Or was just pure co-incidence?

We are always free to make any choice we wish. But according to religious dogma god is aware of those choices well in andvance as if they had already happened. We are only aware of time as a linear function, whereas he is described as existing in all points of time and space simultaneously...a concept only vaguely comprehendable to us mere mortals @Pikachu

@Zaphod42

Well if we're going to abandon cause and effect then i guess so?

lol still doesn't make much sense to me

Took me a while to wrap my head around it too. I still don’t believe in a god as laid out in dogma, but I’ll admit to the possibility of a pan dimensional being such as that 🤷‍♂️ @Pikachu

@TexChik

Sorry, i'm not sure how this addresses the question.
Perhaps you could rephrase?