So...god already knows what will happen in the future. And god is infallible so that means you can't change it...so does free will actually exist? [Spirituality & Religion]

@Spoiledbrat

But if your choices are known in advance doesn't that mean you were never going to make any other choice? If it wasn't a possibility that you could make a different choice, do you have free will or are you just following the script?

@Spoiledbrat your answer kinda resonates with my thoughts

I think so because the choice was still given. @Pikachu

@Spoiledbrat

Is it really a choice if you could never make a different choice?

@Pikachu you can, that's why it's called a choice. Think of it this way.. you get a choice to do something and nobody knows what you're going to choose then you make a choice out of total free will and according to your choice other plans are made after

@SW-User

If you were never going to make a different choice, do you really have free will or was that choice predetermined?

@Pikachu you're interpreting it wrong.. it depends upon your perception of it

@SW-User

I'm interpreting it right.. it depends upon your perception of it

@Pikachu you have all the free will to choose.. once you understand that some force/power/god let's other things fall into place. Just because someone or something knows what you'll do it doesn't have any affect on you

@SW-User

If some force/power/god already knows which choice you're going to make, then do you actually have a choice or was that decision always the one you would make?

@SW-User But wouldn't a truly omniscient God be aware of all the choices that will be made and already put into place the responses to them? If that is the case, every choice becomes a Hobson's choice.

@Pikachu that depends upon your perception 🤷‍♀️.. it's not black and white

@Bushranger my response is the same to you as well.. perception

@SW-User So you are saying that we only have the perception of free will. Yep, I can get on board with that.

@Bushranger I mean we can't be sure what is and what isn't and we only percieve things as our limited brain capacity allows us. Trying to find a solid answer to this is a moots point

@Spoiledbrat So your subconscious self can save you in disaster? I believe God can.

I believe I am the only one that can. @Carazaa

Wow I would have never made it alive when my car spun out on the San Diego freeway at 8 am if God hadn't opened a path for me and my car stopped one mm completely parallel to the middle cement divider. I yelled out "Please God don't let me hit anybody and my car spun around 3 times on a 5 lane packed freeway going 85 miles an hour. I had been listening to the rolling stones, putting on my makeup and wasn't paying attention and didn't realize the freeway had come to a stop in the pouring rain.

There was trucks and cars packed. How did I get from the right lane to the left lane without hitting another car when I spun out?? When my car was facing the wrong way in the fast lane the cars all stopped and waited for me to turn my car and continue to work. I still feel like God opened the waters for me like He did for Moses.

That’s good. I’m glad you feel that way. @Carazaa

@Spoiledbrat Your avatar looks like San Diego ha ha!

🙂 @Carazaa

@SW-User I think I have to agree with you. While I might believe that I have free will, I may well not have. Alternatively, even if I believe that I don't have free will, I well might have it. Just depends on what my underlying belief system is. Also, while I have my perceptions, you have yours and both are equally valid for each of us. It all comes down to belief. At least, that's what I think you are saying.

@Bushranger yeah more or less

@Pikachu You picked the right name Pickatyou...