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To all those who actually did vote for Biden , our taxes are going up, gas ⛽️ And heating is going up by the day and we have infected people entering

It's exactly what they were told was going to happen and they voted for it anyway. No room to complain or make excuses now.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@PrivateHell If your taxes are gonna go up, then you either own a wealthy corporation or you make over 90K a year.

Mess at the border? He's doing the same shit Trump did. It isn't good, but it's no different than the last four years. Or last twelve, cos really Obama started that one.

Gas prices are going up because usage of gasoline is going up, not because of the Keystone XL pipeline being axed. And if you're upset about the pipeline having been mothballed then you'll have to take the stance that the government should be allowed to revoke private land from its owners, because the American Indians refused to allow the pipeline to be built on their land. Aren't you conservative types supposed to be big on private property rights? You want the government to be able to jack your land and build on it even if you say no? Gee, that kinda sounds like what might happen in an authoritarian communist regime.
@BlueMetalChick nice try, and i know it must really suck making up excuses to defend someone like Biden, so you have my sympathy. But the reality is hitting a lot of people in the face too hard for the media to cover this one up.

My taxes went down $2400 under Trump's cuts. That is not a media talking point, it is hardcore fact. When Biden did away with those cuts, my taxes will go back up and i am far from the only one here.

Wrong on the mess at the border part as well. With the renewing of policies like catch and release and the recent cuts and restrictions to ICE, plus stopping construction on the wall, the caravans have started once again, and we are seeing a new surge in unaccompanied minors again (which are being put back into cages Biden insists on calling "containers" as if that makes it better). They are surging for a reason now that Trump is gone.

And gas prices aren't just naturally rising on their own. Not at the rate they have been increasing. They are going up as a direct result of policy, like closing the pipeline. But don't worry, there is plenty of real communism coming down the road.
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cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
Stellar job, Biden voters...you should be so proud of the mess you made.
carpediem · 61-69, M
From the left view, higher gas is a good thing. Less people driving. Higher taxes are also good. More free stuff for them. Unchecked immigration is good. They'll vote for the same idiot they did to keep the freebies coming. Infected people are your local problem. Just look at the foolish comment in this thread.
carpediem · 61-69, M
@cherokeepatti Agreed. But the way the election was manipulated was closer to Venezuela than the US.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@carpediem same company products for some of the voting machines
carpediem · 61-69, M
@cherokeepatti exactly. Same result too. A commie got in
BlueVeins · 22-25
Turns out, when you have more commerce, gas prices increase and since taxes are a portion of income, when income increases, tax revenue increases too. So yeah, the economy is recovering under Biden. Libs = owned. 😎
BlueVeins · 22-25
@Driver2 Gas was more expensive in 2017 than it is now, dipshit.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@Stereoguy Couldn't have possibly been more clear buddy. I'm saying that the things you're talkin' about are vital signs of a strong economy. They're not pleasant in themselves, but they're an indicator that things are goin' well overall.
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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
Also new fence barriers around the White House and increased military presence there.

Can you imagine the shitstorm if Trump had won re-election and had to do that himself?

But if Biden and the Dems do it, eh, who cares, blah blah blah January 6th, capital "insurrection", MSM propaganda...yadda yadda yadda.
carpediem · 61-69, M
@SumKindaMunster The barriers and Guard are the dumbest chicken shit thing I've seen yet. Of course they wouldn't use the National Guard to save the cities. That's because it was leftists burning them down. The democrats are absolutely awful. God help us with those idiots in power.
FaeLuna · 31-35, F
So? Those are local problems. Bring that up with your local government.
Driver2 · M
@FaeLuna it’s ok because positive Covid illegal immigrants can get on a bus and be dropped off anywhere in the country.
Can you ?
FaeLuna · 31-35, F
@Driver2 I have seen no indication that this is a thing. Please provide a source for this claim.
SW-User
@FaeLuna It was from 2019
Barefooter25 · 46-50, M
Anyone surprised by all this? Especially after the election was stolen and no one did anything to stop it. The proof is in front of the capitol with the barricade fences and the National Guard outside 24/7.
Driver2 · M
@FaeLuna here we go , he inherited the problems . No he created the current issues . Stopping the pipeline and prohibiting fracking on public lands and the other green laws do raise
energy costs . And raising taxes in a weak economy is going to make it much worse.
And the border is all federal , and now thanks to the tin man it’s a cluster fuck .
I don’t hate democrats. And the democrats left will either be destroyed by the socialist or get out of the party.

But no those issues are all tied to DC . And they will wreck our economy which is their intention
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@FaeLuna It is. I usually look at behavior to tell me what is really going on.

For politicians, I rarely listen to anything they say, but what they actually do when given the opportunity is how I choose to judge them.

This helps.
FaeLuna · 31-35, F
@SumKindaMunster Okay, further digging and information from the Associated Press is saying that yes, Buffet's railroads are transporting some of the oil. I will concede I was misinformed there.

However, the claim that the cancellation of the pipeline was solely due to his request seems to be false, or at least exaggerated. Apparently Buffett himself was in support of the pipeline and the oil transport makes up only a small fraction of his railroad revenue, so they didn't even consider it a competitor. He didn't even contribute significantly to Biden's campaign or publically endorse him.

Reuters is saying that only 8% of the oil is transported by rail anyway, and that a majority of it is already transported by existing pipeline (~75%).

Factcheck.org seems to agree.

Whether or not you trust these sources is up to you, but the common element among them seems to be that Buffett did not contribute a huge amount to Biden to influence the decision, and that Buffett wasn't in a place to take over oil transport by rail and make huge profits to begin with.

And whether or not we can trust anything that politicians and billionaires say to the public is a whole other story.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@FaeLuna [quote]However, the claim that the cancellation of the pipeline was solely due to his request seems to be false, or at least exaggerated.[/quote]

Absolutely. I got this from right wing sources, and they exaggerate and misdirect as much as the left wing news sources.

To be fair, I never said this was the sole reason. But, isn't it interesting how when you actually look into such things, the truth suddenly becomes more murky and less absolute?

I think it would be fair to say that the reasons for cancelling this project are entirely political and I am certain you will find that this decision benefits key Democrat supporting industries or individuals.

I don't trust any mainstream media source unequivocally. I try to read as many disparate sources as I can, but I take everything with a grain of salt, particularly when discussing political issues such as this one.

Here's the about page from Factcheck.org

https://www.factcheck.org/our-funding/

Here's some interesting quotes from it:

[quote]We do not seek and have never accepted, directly or indirectly, any funds from unions, partisan organizations or advocacy groups. We do not accept funds from corporations with the exception of Facebook, which provides funding as part of Facebook’s initiative to debunk viral deceptions, and Google, which provided a one-time grant to support our COVID-19 coverage in 2020. Neither corporation seeks nor is given any control over our editorial decisions.[/quote]

This is laughably ridiculous. Of course Facebook and Google have influence on their editorial decisions, you think they would publish something that made either of those companies look bad? Do you trust Facebook to be non partisan and neutral on issues? That certainly hasn't been my experience in observing them. They seem to be greedy, manipulative, and completely fine with brainwashing people if it benefits their bottom line.

[quote]Note: In addition to the sums reported here, FactCheck.org receives in-kind support from the Annenberg Public Policy Center including some infrastructure costs as well as supervisory, technical, and administrative support from APPC faculty and staff. We do not attempt to assign a dollar value to these in-kind services, which are funded from the APPC’s own resources.[/quote]

So basically, they are funded by the Annenburg Public Policy center, what is that?

https://www.annenbergpublicpolicycenter.org/

Looks like a left wing Academic think tank that funds left wing ideas and initiatives.

[quote]he Science of Science Communication
APPC's Science Communication area looks at the failure to dispel public controversy over such issues as climate change, vaccinations, and genetically modified organisms (GMOs) despite the presence of valid, compelling and widely accessible scientific evidence.[/quote]

So there is, at minimum, bias in Factcheck.org's "fact checking". I am certain that the figures you quoted me are correct. However, I am also certain those things are irrelevant and the true reasons for the cancellation are not being revealed, rather you are being misdirected to focus on these data points instead of the whole, unvarnished truth.
meJess · F
If infected people are entering you please see a doctor
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
We've gone over this before, if you make less than 70K a year, your taxes will not be going up. I don't even like Joe Biden and I can tell you that.
monte3 · 70-79, M
@BlueMetalChick doesn’t do reality, he just says “bullschiff” and thinks that is cn argument and SO verny clever.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@monte3 And also "don't bogard that joint." He says that at random.
monte3 · 70-79, M
And spells election with a “k” and thinks it is witty. @BlueMetalChick
4meAndyou · F
And to all those whose taxes are going to go through the roof...please remember that you get what you pay for. 👏👏👏
akindheart · 61-69, F
yes ...tell them that as he makes his victory tour...
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@akindheart There are a laundry list of real criticisms of Biden but this guy skipped every single one and instead just made some shit up. He should have hit Biden for escalating in Afghanistan, shooting down his promised minimum wage increase, hiring corrupt corporate shitheels for his cabinet, or refusing to reenter the Iran Nuclear Deal.
akindheart · 61-69, F
@BlueMetalChick and THAT is the tip of the iceberg on this shit show.
SW-User
Grifter’s gonna grift. 😂
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