For men who are pro life: what would you say to being told that you don't have a right over your own body? Because that's what you're telling women.

I agree with this to a degree but women are the only ones capable of carrying a baby. The man also has to live with the fact that their child’s fate rests in the woman’s hands.

I don't think Pro-life means telling a woman she has no right over her body. It's more like saying she has no right to murder an innocent life for her own reasons. I know it's more complex than this as there are some reasons where an abortion can be deemed necessary , but to abort a healthy life where there is no risk to mother or child is in my opinion murder.

A woman has the right to have sex or not , if she chooses to do so then she needs to deal with an unwanted pregnancy . Keep the child or give it up for adoption is the options , in the case of rape I know of one woman and have heard of others who were brutally raped and saw the pregnancies through , they made the best of a horrible situation

[quote]what would you say to being told that you don't have a right over your own body? [/quote]

How does that protect people I intend to murder?

Well a lot of the abortions a body is clearly already formed so it’s a bit of a hypocrisy.. The best way to prevent all this is better implementation of condoms and safe sex measures..

And not only the body can be formed but the SW’s as well.. furthering hypocrisy when they abort a female..

I think only talking about a person rights.. and then discussing sentience.. would mean that we could kill anyone while they’re sleeping..

And I also believe the measure of life.. has a starting point.. and no single person would exist without conception.. so to me that will never add up.. conception is a process of existence..

If we smacked opportunity out of people’s hands and didn’t let them become doctors and closed down all the schools and told everyone they take too long.. to become something fully functional.. would people agree to this bizarre claim..

A human might take awhile to get out of an oven..

We call bread, bread.. but do we say it has to come into existence on its own as if from the sky??

No, there’s a process to it..

It’s a goopy sloppy mess.. just like sex..
Before it then needs to reach an oven.. just like something growing in the womb.. before it then finally goes “ding” and comes out as expected..

To me, I can’t change how anyone does things.. but just don’t lie to my face about it.. abortion is legal murder.. and we as humans have had the sickening propaganda of people trying their hardest to “justify” it by changing what they define as “life” when we all know the fact.. Without conception, life does not begin at all..

If it grows, and matures just like all life does.. just don’t lie about it.. it’s pointless and foolish to do that.. I think that’s our biggest issue as a society.. lying to others faces.. while playing a victim.. if you’re going to do such a thing no one can stop you anyway.. you can just as easily fake a miscarriage.. and having an abortion causes a very similar amount of strain in the body as does giving birth.. but it just comes with the lack of responsibility for taking care of your own gene pool..

And if someone thinks their gene pool is so abhorrent then that’s on them..

But just don’t lie to me about what it is.. that’s all I ask from people.. I’m sick of the pissing on people but telling me it’s rain syndrome that people got in their heads..

Yes there’s a lot of pressure a person can feel, before giving birth or not.. but it doesn’t mean they’ll stay happy with their decision all their lives.. people mid life crisis and regret it.. some regret it instantly.. and it’s not something that can be taken back either.. none of the issues are simple or black and white..

But the lying needs to stop.. it’s legalized murder.. and it’s a scary thing.. and we need more measures for giving people the means and understanding on practicing safe sex.. not only for abortion issues but for STD based ones as well..

It’s tragic, and people will do it regardless and I feel bad for the potential list in this world.. but.. we need to love the ones that are still around us.. we need to find more value in human life.. that’s all this issue speaks to me as a whole..

When men are ordered to fight wars, they don't have a right to their own body. How many guys were shipped off to die in Vietnam against their will?

I personally am pro life however I don’t think abortion should be illegal. People should have the freedom to choose if they want one or not.

Alternatively, a woman shouldn't have the right to use abortion as a means of getting back at men, either.

We have alternative methods of contraception that could be used to prevent pregnancy without resorting to abortion.

The decision should be reached jointly and in agreement before taking any action "I'm going to have an abortion because I don't think that you will make a good dad" is not a reason - you can't be certain unless he has a chance to demonstrate his ability as a father.

They really don't care man, they just want things done their way.


But yeah, the whole pro-life, take care of children, and death penalty abortion thing doesn't make any damn sense, as for as political parties go.

Democrats are pro-life for criminals (including convicted violent criminals) but not for innocent babies.

Republicans are pro-life for the innocent babies, but they're anti-funding the support systems to help single parents and/or orphans and other community help systems that will give them more of an equal opportunity, which sadly, some statistics suggest (and some suggestion these are bad statistics, while they're a negative one, I haven't seen any proof say they're wrong), suggesting those with less opportunities are more likely to become criminals, which the Republicans then are already with putting to death if their crime is enough.


Serious, I don't understand why the no party is simply on one side or the other, but they try to be on both sides of life/death.

The woman decided to have sex .Killing the baby because she messed up is wrong.

This is a bit of a go nowhere argument.

What many people don't seem to understand is that the rate of unwanted pregnancies goes down when abortions are allowed.

Areas that allow abortions also have sexual health education.

The argument over who gets to "control" the fetus is an unending one.

Focus instead on what's best for the community.

With that said, I'd be glad to argue with anyone who is opposed to education.

I am pro-life, but life entails more than birth. Therefore I'm also for letting the parents decide whether a fetus is better off being born or relieved from misery before it even starts. They know better than any neighbor, stranger or politician.

You make conception sound like divine intervention

I don’t consider abortion to be murder. That’s why it’s legal. People get pregnant when they didn’t intend to. It happens all the time and sex is a natural urge. Further no one is making individual abort so it’s to each his own path.

At the end of the day, pro-lifers are not pro-life. They are pro-controlling women. They won’t admit it of course but it’s the truth.

If it were that simple, men and women who believe in a God would all think that life is a miraculous gift and oppose the ending of life except possibly in self defense. All men and women who believe that life is just a cosmic accident would support your position. However, since there are believers who support abortion and non-believers who oppose it, it isn't simple.

And there is always a choice that leads to a fetus or any other result. Choices have consequences.

If men could get pregnant, abortions would be available at ATMs!!

Yes it’s her body, but it’s THEIR child. It took a man and a woman to create the child.

Almost half of women are also pro-life. This isn't a male vs female issue, so stop the propaganda and sexism. Thank you very much.

so what you are saying if i read between the lines you are saying a man has no right in forcing woman to have an abortion i agree at the end of the day they have had there fun the men maybe a mistake but if you get a woman pregnant you should stand up to your responsibilities and stand by the woman and her child not take the easy cowards way out @Pikachu

So you are anti-invading other countries for the to gain access to their assets because we have no right to take other people’s lives (I happen to believe we have no right to take other peoples possessions by force)

What's the issue here? ._.
I live having discussions like this

That’ll convince them.