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Is Adam Schiff The Right PErson To Investigate Trump?

Adam Schiff has had a burr under his saddle regarding Trump since Trump began his presidential campaign. He claimed to have Russia collusion evidence - that he never produced. Now, before the investigation has even begun, Schiff's words betray any semblance of a fair arbiter on the question of Trump's impeachment.

For Schiff, it looks like verdict now, trial later.

So is Schiff the right man for the job?

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wildbill83 · 36-40, M Best Comment

I think "shifty schiff" oughta be taken out back and shot for treason... 🤔

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Budwick · 70-79, M

@wildbill83 That sounds PERFECT for the job.
I really love our team.
We've got smart people in every aspect of life.
All ready and willing to share their expertise.

I mean, no one LIKES executions.
But, executing Adam Schiff just might get us as close as we're gonna get.

And out respect for the condemned asshole, WildBill has stepped up to the plate and shared his wisdom regarding weaponry and ammo.

And does WildBill expect something in return? Absolutely not!
Like all good conservatives, he is selfless, just wanting to pitch in!

You're a great American WildBill!
[b]Fighting for Truth, Justice and the American way![/b]

wildbill83 · 36-40, M

@Budwick on the contrary, I think executions are great; it's one of the few actions that serves the purpose of saving money and saving the planet... 🤔

prisoners/inmates cost upkeep, dead scumbags cost nothing
democrats spout a lot of hot air/co2, dead democrats make great fertilizer

Budwick · 70-79, M

@wildbill83 OMG - AND a tree hugger!

I am over come.

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

Schiff is implicated in the Ukrainian scandal along with Biden and Pelosi.

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LeopoldBloom · M

@hippyjoe1955 Great, then you have nothing to worry about, and Orange Jesus will get s second term.

But what if you’re wrong and the shitbag is removed from office, or worse, loses the election to Elizabeth Warren? Too awful to contemplate?

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@LeopoldBloom Trump will win no matter what the demoncraps try to do to him. They don't have any realistic candidates. The leader in the polls is up to his ears in corruption and sexual sleaze. Who in their right mind would vote for that? Of course they could vote for a woman whose claims to be native got her into Harvard. Or they could vote for the woman that wound up on top by lying on her back.

LeopoldBloom · M

@hippyjoe1955 Better than a failed businessman and reality TV star partial to white supremacy and child rape who is in hock to Russian mobsters up to his eyeballs.

And seriously, the worst thing you can say about Warren is she’s not really Native American? Dude, the only people who care about that wouldn’t vote for her anyway because she’s a Democrat.

4meAndyou · F

Schiff is a Congressional representative from Burbank, California, and apparently the folks who live there feel that he actually represents the way they think and feel. I don't know if we should all have a little fake sympathy cry for them right now.

Schiff has become an obvious liar and a joke... a clown.

When you get caught lying once, stating that you "have" evidence of Russian collusion, but you don't, and then you lie again on national television, making up things that Trump is supposed to have said...well...at that point you are no longer a rational human being. You've become a fruitcake.

The whole point of this is NOT to impeach Trump, and Schiff and Nadler and Pelosi all know that. They KNOW this waste of time and money will die in the Senate.

The point is to get themselves on television saying the most irrational and obvious lies possible, because they know they have a base of people who want to hear exactly what they are saying. This is all play for the base.

I have also heard that it has been deliberately engineered in hopes that they will reach enough gullible and hate filled Democrats in districts where Congressional seats are at risk, in order to swing the election to a Democrat majority in the House AND the Senate, in hopes of blocking Trump completely and impeach him for real during his next term.

Schiff is doing incredible damage to his own party, just as Omar and Tlaib and AOC have done.

Budwick · 70-79, M

@4meAndyou [quote]This is all play for the base.[/quote]

I wish you were wrong.
I fear that you are right.
It's scary that there are such hate filled people in positions of power.

Carla · 61-69, F

I suppose you think a republican should head the committee. Nunes maybe. He proved he was such an impartial fellow

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jackjjackson · 61-69, M

They are duh. @RodionRomanovitch

RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M

@jackjjackson Are they , on what basis ?

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

The 💰 @RodionRomanovitch

SheCallsMeCrushDaddy · M

Nope...... not objective at all.

katielass · F

That lying creep isn't even worthy of being in the House.

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jackjjackson · 61-69, M

Nice try but NO. Putting a known lightweight liar such as Schiff in charge condemns this from the start. Perhaps that is what Mrs Pelosi planned to thwart the four stooges.

@katielass @LeopoldBloom

LeopoldBloom · M

@jackjjackson Or, you think Schiff is incompetent because you don’t like him.

The next few months will be interesting. They have to get this done before the primaries start.

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

Listening to Schiff for fifteen minutes is enough for any reasonable person to conclude that Schiff is a fraud. Done? It will be ongoing through the election 😂😂😂 @LeopoldBloom

SW-User

After Harvard Law School, Schiff began working as a prosecutor in the Los Angeles branch of the U.S. Attorney's Office. While an assistant U.S. Attorney, he gained attention by prosecuting a case against Richard Miller, a former FBI agent convicted of "passing secret documents to the Soviet Union in exchange for a promised $65,000 in gold and cash."[4] The first trial resulted in a hung jury; the second trial resulted in a conviction that was overturned on appeal.[5] [b]Miller was convicted in a third trial.[6][/b]

Three trials. Tenacious.

Trump should have been impeached long ago. Where is his lawyer now? Prison.

MistyCee

Actually, it looks like Schiff might be doing a great job of getting Trump to impeach himself

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jackjjackson · 61-69, M

You’re entitled to your feelings. You will also receive the benefits from the President’s re-election. @MistyCee

MistyCee

@jackjjackson Thank you. I'm not holding my breath on the cost/benefit thing.

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

Have I steered you wrong yet? @MistyCee

curiosi · 61-69, F

Schiff needs to be investigated!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/explosive-report-rep-adam-schiff-linked-to-prominent-ukrainian-arms-dealer/

4meAndyou · F

@curiosi And that may be why he is so excitable on this issue.

Budwick · 70-79, M

@4meAndyou @curiosi Do you think there are criminal elements that may want to, .... silence Schiff?

And, if so - do you know if they are accepting contributions?

4meAndyou · F

@Budwick 😂 You!Too funny.

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Budwick · 70-79, M

@pismo Hey Pismo - IN America, EVERYONE is presumed innocent until proven guilty.

[quote]are you the right person to question anyone's integrity or honesty?[/quote]

You sure as hell are not!

LeopoldBloom · M

@Budwick It’s not a criminal proceeding, at least, not yet. So there is no presumption of innocence.

LeopoldBloom · M

It’s not just up to Schiff, he has to produce enough evidence to convince the House to impeach and the Senate to convict.

If you’re concerned that he will go off half cocked before doing that, that would be a problem because it would allow Trump to get away with a crime.

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LeopoldBloom · M

@Budwick They’re not formal accusations at this point. They’re allegations. Don’t worry, the point of the impeachment process is to look at the evidence. This is just starting.

Budwick · 70-79, M

@LeopoldBloom [quote] This is just starting[/quote]

I know - you got to find a crime first!

LeopoldBloom · M

So threatening to withhold aid unless they investigate your political rival isn’t a crime? What if Bernie Sanders told China that he’ll lift the tariffs if they help him win the presidency by uncovering dirt on Trump? Doesn’t that destroy any integrity our elections have? We might as well just ask the UN to appoint our president for us.

MistyCee

Do you have an alternative?

I'm not exactly thrilled with Schiff, but he's better than Nadler.

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jackjjackson · 61-69, M

They didn’t name the chair people. @MistyCee

MistyCee

@jackjjackson Nope. I was just looking at everyone on the Judiciary Committee in both parties, and none of them looked any better suited to me.

In terms of handling the hearings, my guess is Schiff will do as good as anybody else can in terms of directing things at the committee level, but they're going to be a circus, and its going to be really interesting to see how it plays out.

My gut feeling is that the Democrats will try to make it short and sweet as possible, with a few good witnesses, and minimal court fights when Trump stonewalls in the hopes of getting it over and done with and over to the Senate as quickly as possible, since they know they have the votes to impeach already and that its not likely that they have much of a chance of prevailing in the Senate no matter what happens.

Conversely, the Republicans will likely obstruct as much as possible, raising every frivolous objection, bringing up every whatabout and irrelevant "defense" they can with an awful lot of ad hominem grandstanding to keep it going until everyone gets sick of hearing about it, its close to the election, and they can say nothing came up and McConnell should table it until after the election if they can't get him to put together a suitable show trial or figure out another way to refuse to consider it before.

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

Probably reasonable predictions all around. @MistyCee

RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M

Sure is ...... I especially liked his crime boss parody of Trump. And even moreso the fact that Trump thought it was entirely serious.

Arrest him ...... for treason ! 😂

Budwick · 70-79, M

@RodionRomanovitch [quote]Trump thought it was entirely serious.[/quote]

Addressing Congress regarding impeachment -
great timing for a comedy routine.

Shall we hire Bozo to make animal balloons for RGB's wake?

RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M

@Budwick I don't see the need for that , but I'm sure you'll be celebrating anyway if it happens sometime soon.

Budwick · 70-79, M

@RodionRomanovitch So, even you can see that there is a time and place for certain behavior.

SeriouslyFlippant

Would choosing the “right” person for a job with an outlook so insurmountably poor really matter?

Budwick · 70-79, M

@SeriouslyFlippant YEah, I think it does. Even if you think the impeachment thing will fail, it's still a distraction for actually doing the jobs that Congress is not doing, it's a stain on the government, and another nail in the coffin of the democrat party.

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Budwick · 70-79, M

@pismo Yes.
And I was stunned when Comey spent 20 minutes telling everyone how guilty Hillary was on stuff -
only to wrap up with 'no prosecutor in his right mind would take this case."

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

Its not the validity of the evidence, its the seriousness of the charge that matters

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sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@MistyCee Spot on

MistyCee

@sunsporter1649 Ok. Personally, I think that's one of the least effective and most easily rebutted White House talking points, but I do get that the rebuttal would likely not resonate as well as the talking point itself.

Without getting into hearsay, whistleblower public policy, witness intimidation, the real substance of the exclusionary rule and the fruit of the poisoness tree doctrine and all that stuff, though, Trump already undercut the effectiveness of this point by releasing the summary/transcript, and letting the acting DNI guy testify.

I think we're shortly going to be focusing either on the coverup, I doubt that the emotional appeal of this argument will hold up so well once more subpoenas issue and/or Trump people start testifying.

If Trumpists want to make this thing really fly, they're going to likely have to go way beyond hearsay and deeper into conspiracy stuff, like they already have by talking about how it sounded like it was written by a lawyer, and supporting a counterattack like they did with FISAGate.

I think its likely that they will do just that, and do their damndest to bring Obama, Clinton, Biden, the media, the deep state, globalists, and everyone else into the circus, but when they do, the hearsay/whistleblower thing will likely get forgotten pretty quickly.

MistyCee

@sunsporter1649 It looks like some of the conspiracy theories alluded to as superior to the hearsay thing on the complaint are already being explored.

I only breezed through it and the guardian is not a favorite source of mine, but it illustrates how quickly the hearsay thing becomes irrelevant, even assuming there was any merit to it.

Impeachment: the five conspiracy theories behind Trump's Ukraine dilemma | US news | The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/sep/30/trump-impeachment-five-conspiracy-theories-ukraine-dilemma

ExperienceDLT · M

No cause Trump gonna charge him with treason lol

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Budwick · 70-79, M

@4meAndyou [quote]what are the news stations going to TALK about?[/quote]

They'll all be out of jobs.
Unless the farm reports make a comeback.

4meAndyou · F

@ExperienceDLT 😂

4meAndyou · F

@Budwick Yeah...farm reports...😂

whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M

No.. The N.S.A., the C.I.A and the FBI should investigate Trump. It should be a combined, unlimited investigation with international reach and coercive powers.. After all. Trump has nothing to hide. Does he?

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jackjjackson · 61-69, M

Oh a hater AND a foreigner. @whowasthatmaskedman

whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M

@jackjjackson Just occasionally you show signs of being rational. I guess today isnt your day.

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

So ow you’re starting with the douchebaggery. Predicable. @whowasthatmaskedman

ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M

Actually, I'm banking more on the prosecutors in the NYC district who are investigating the fraud and tax charges.

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ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M

@Budwick I HOPE it will go somewhere, but I'm afraid certain members of the GOP will do everything in their power to derail the process and save Trump from justice, something they'd have more trouble doing under state prosecutions.

Budwick · 70-79, M

@ChipmunkErnie [quote]something they'd have more trouble doing under state prosecutions.[/quote]

Yeah, there's far more activist judges at that level, that's for sure!

ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M

@Budwick Don't need activist judges, just need to get away from obstructive Senators and the possibility of Presidential pardons for co-conspirators. Trump can't pardon for state crimes.

therighttothink50 · 56-60, M

http://dcwhispers.com/the-treasonous-phone-conversation-adam-schiff-doesnt-want-you-to-listen-to-and-share-with-others/

SW-User

@therighttothink50 Who is going to waste their time going to fake news site. I’m not saying they only publish fake news. They just aren’t a real news site.

MistyCee

Ok, I did some research, and this is my candidate to lead the impeachment inquiry:

[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX20kcp7j5c]

4meAndyou · F

@MistyCee Yes, well, the love child of the following folk is a far better choice:

[image=https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.6zlBDQyCvfw3Zd_1ECBgnAHaFh&pid=Api&P=0&w=233&h=175]

MistyCee

@4meAndyou ewww.

4meAndyou · F

@MistyCee Yes, as you know, Crazy Eyes from Mr. Deeds and the alien creature above had a love child...who was Adam Schiff. Sad, isn't it? 😂

ExperienceDLT · M

And he is gonna have the "whistleblower" hanged

InOtterWords · F

Who would be the right man? The country is so polarised about Trump that you will never get an impartial and objective investigation.

The danger of a supporter investigating is that they may ignore/discount evidence.

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Budwick · 70-79, M

@InOtterWords Babylon - one is FOUND not guilty.

One is INNOCENT until [i]proven [/i]guilty.
Of course according to democrat, if you're not [b]exonerated [/b]- which no judicial setting does - then you're still guilty.

Dems have really screwed with their own credibility.

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Budwick · 70-79, M

@pismo Hypocrite?
No.
I'm not heading up an investigative committee though.

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