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Haven't asked anything "controversial " in a while so... Do you think the pledge of allegiance should be discontinued in schools? Why or why not?
One of my core education classes for college is going a debate on this topic right now on whether or not schools should or shouldn't discontinue making students participate in the pledge of allegiance every morning and why. Since I'm allowed to research and ask opinions from others I decided why not ask on here since most people are pretty blunt on their views.
I'm not giving my opinion on this, only because I'm I'm supposed to be a neutral party but would really appreciate to know others thoughts of this and why they feel the way they do about it.
22-25, F
34 replies
Feb 16, 2019
Take away the ppls pride n passion ... sure why not
I gave my opinion BMC . Oh what a shock. You don’t like it.. oh well.. that’s nice....
NP.. if you can’t join the dots between the pledge of allegiance. And pride and a sense of belonging.. I’m sorry for you..
Sing the anthem at the drop of a hat. What’s the difference?
BlueMetalChick · 22-25, F
[@327405,theoneyouwerewarnedabout] I was hoping you might elaborate. I mean, isn't the entire point of a social forum to have conversations with each other? You always act like I'm doing something wrong by replying to other people's comments.
NaturallyPeculiar · 22-25, F
[@327405,theoneyouwerewarnedabout] I respect your opinion but I guess I'm just a little lost on how not saying the pledge of allegiance every single day takes away the children's pride and passion...
Also, we don't force children to sing the anthem every day at school so I think that it a bit of a difference to the pledge of allegiance.
BlueMetalChick · 22-25, F
Yeah I guess so. I mean, it's not like any of the children who recite it care about it. It was always a drag doing it when we were in school.
MrBrownstone · 41-45, M
Teach it,don’t practice. Schools should stick with just teaching.
DonaldTrumpet · 70-79, M
BlueVeins · 18-21, M
It should certainly be discontinued from kindergartens, and maybe even elementary schools. Children who are too young to understand what this country is and does -- or for that matter, how a country operates to begin with -- should not be made to promise their loyalty to said country.

I don't see a big problem with it in middle schools and high schools, though. In middle school, you're at least starting to develop a political ideology, and have probably formed a legitimate opinion on the ol' stars and stripes.
The supreme court has already addressed the issue as to compulsion. no government entity (including schools) can force a child to say the pledge. period.

should they discontinue it? I think so. I remember saying (chanting) it every day and going mind blank as I said it.

does it inspire people to be patriotic? I don't think so.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
The Pledge of Allegiance was the second thing we did every morning in kindergarten in South Carolina. The first thing we did was sing Dixie.

I'd like to see it discontinued or at least made optional due to its reference to the "One Nation, Under God" phrase. Some students may not be Christian and should not be forced to recite something incompatible with their religious teachings.
DonaldTrumpet · 70-79, M
[@339454,windinhishair] GODz BLeZZ Dixie [image=]
MasterLee · 51-55, M
Yes because it was hijacked on 1954
CopperCicada · 51-55, M
[@9463,MasterLee] Just playing the devil's advocate here-- I've got a good dozen people in my circle in real life who would say that America is a Protestant Christian country, and anyone else isn't a real American. So it's they who have divided themselves, not the pledge.
MasterLee · 51-55, M
[@482591,CopperCicada] still doesn't mean it is just because someone claims it
CopperCicada · 51-55, M
[@9463,MasterLee] That is the predominant political sentiment. I don't make the rules.
indyjoe · 51-55, M
No I do not. We may be a nation made up of many different cultures (we're called "the great melting pot" as you know), and we have not had an exactly spotless past...but we are still the United States of America and we should be loyal to our country and pledge our allegiance to it. If we do away with that then we have nothing and we no longer have the freedom and united front to work with to work out the problems we are facing.
wildbill83 · 31-35, M
I have a better idea; for all the people that deem the pledge of allegiance "offensive", protest display of the American flag, Burn the flag, protest/criminalize capitalism, ignore the Constitution, give aid and comfort to illegal immigrants/non-citizens, etc. etc.

Permanently revoke their access to any form of state & federal aid; welfare, food stamps, college grants, student loans, etc.

aka, no pride? no privileges...
wildbill83 · 31-35, M
Quite frankly, if you don't like reciting the pledge of allegiance, then don't... just sit there and shut the fuck up while everyone else does. But don't sit there and complain because someone else exercises [i]their right[/i] to demonstrate national pride.
CopperCicada · 51-55, M
[@597698,wildbill83] Well. There's West Virginia Board of Education v. Barnette.

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