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With all the conspiracy theories we hear about George Soros, can anyone explain to me what benefit a borderless world would be to George Soros?

therighttothink50 · 56-60, M Best Comment
It is all about control, the number one obstacle for the leftist /elitist globalists and their ability to control human thought is a sovereign and strong US along with our US Constititution. Importing enough people into the US who have no intention of assimilating and who have no idea what the US Constitution stands for, definitely insures the demise of the US.

It is very simple, the left despises freedom and logic, they are hell bent on wielding power and controlling a thumbed down society at any cost. If you import enough illiterates and impoverished people into a country, it destroys a nation.

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The left is trying to make critical thinking obsolete, a place where logic is an enemy and where truth is a menace.

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Lila15 · 22-25, F
@therighttothink50 Oh come on. I've seen footage of people at Trump rallies, and there's no critical thought going on there either.

TexChik · F
He dislikes the United States and has vowed to destroy it . Open borders would increase crime , disease, chaos , and financial instability, and likely civil war
Xuan12 · 31-35, M
@TexChik I've never destroyed a historical monument. You don't give a shit though because you'd rather be an outraged snowflake and stereotype everyone rather than a thinking human being. And no, I don't want your citizenship, because it's a RIGHT, I couldn't take it from you any way short of killing you, and I'm not a murderer. I said IF it was a privilege. For real, are you illiterate or just autistic? No, scratch that second part. A literate autistic person would pay attention to detail. You just want an excuse to be a bitch, which you are. I know you don't feel shame, so let me try something else. If you don't understand your rights, which you don't, someone will take them from you and you won't even know. Learn, Bitch. That was earnest and true advice. You're welcome.
TexChik · F
[@not personally I’m sure , too much of a coward? But you support those that do
Xuan12 · 31-35, M
@TexChik Wow...you failed to even hit reply and type properly. Look, if you really want to be involved in a useless fight, try staying sober.

Bye bye! 🥰
Nerdsmith · 46-50, M
It's a complicated question that goes far beyond Soros. It's best summarized as a new form of Marxism. Marx was an odd ball philosopher but he did have a much more noble philosophy than the Lenin implementation. That's a complex and long story though. Focus on the progressive ideal of supranationalist. Absolutely central to supranationalism is the ascendancy of nationalism... As the name indicates. Central to nationalism is a national identity. The Soviets used forced migrations and other totalitarian brutal means of suppression of national identity. So much of what we see today is the "globalists" attempts to similarly destroy national identities. Obama's ghoulish pied Piper immigration policy, the resistance to enforcing immigration law and protecting borders, identity politics, and so on. The worst in my opinion is the particularly disgusting attempts to conflate nationalism and patriotism with Nazism. Yeah, because a capitalist patriot is somehow the same as a Nazi.

How does this benefit Soros? Generally the Eurocrats are unelected lifetime appointees. It's a new aristocracy building from the old. The fucking Hapsbergs still fucking the world over. Sorry, I'm not a fan. Soros is an opportunist and an old school communist. He's very much in the vein of a Soviet with all the corruption and power hungry implications that entails. He wants power and deregulation. He's a master at manipulating markets and governments to his great financial gain. It's money and power he wants.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Nerdsmith There are so many holes in the cultural Marxist conspiracy theory that it wouldn't float in the dead Sea.

Soros is a financial banker and the very embodiment of bourgeoisie classical liberalism that Marx saw as his mission to overthrow.

Yes, Marx wanted international socialism but the Soviet Union was highly nationalistic. Marxists are not in favour of international capitalism and there is no causal link (or any link at all) between Marxist theory and modern liberal identity politics. George Soros donates to Liberal causes but blatantly does not want to destroy America

Its just a huge misunderstanding of political ideologues, history and how power operates which links anything you don't like together.
4meAndyou · F
@Nerdsmith My concern is that George Soros funded the democrat protest group who employed "elevator girl", he has heavily funded the New York Times, and so many other democrat leaning groups, yet he is a communist with an agenda. One of his pet ideas is to destroy all borders. I just don't understand how eliminating borders benefits him financially.
Lila15 · 22-25, F
There would be no benefit.

Soros and Tom Steyer are just the liberal equivalents of the Koch Bros. and Sheldon Adelson. The same people complaining about Soros don't have a problem with the Koch Bros. Some rich people invest in politicians. I don't get mad at any of them. We need campaign finance reform to keep people from taking advantage of the system.
Lila15 · 22-25, F
@4meAndyou He's the liberal counterpart of the Koch Brothers. If you hate Soros, you have to hate them.

What's interesting is how Tom Steyer is an even bigger liberal donor than Soros, but no one cares about him, because he's not Jewish. Steyer has called for Trump's impeachment, which Soros has not done.
4meAndyou · F
@Lila15 You are so fixated on Jewishness I believe I will terminate our discussion. I do hate the Koch brothers.
Lila15 · 22-25, F
@4meAndyou OK, so you just hate it when rich people donate to causes. Fair enough.
Cierzo · M
From what I have read about him, he is very fond of Karl Popper and his idea of an 'open society', a world where borders are very porous and people, goods and money could move in total freedom from one country to another.

Since he is already very old, I think now he is not looking for his personal profit, but using his money to fight for his world vision and globalist institutions, for instance campaigning for a second Brexit referendum, or funding those who oppose Trump.
4meAndyou · F
@Cierzo He is simply too visible. His name comes up over and over again. He is funding all the biggest troublemaking institutions in the US to promote the democrats and therefore promote socialism, which will destroy us.
Cierzo · M
@4meAndyou Exactly. He is visible, he gets the public eye and hate. He is a hateful person, but at the same he is acting as a bumper.

I don't think he is promoting socialism, though, he is closer to the Clintons than to Sanders.
4meAndyou · F
@Cierzo Ugh. Clintons. They remind me of eels.
I love the site I am on that has banned ALL discussion of politics.Seniorforums.com if you are wondering.Members trusted to moderate themselves too.
Nerdsmith · 46-50, M
@TheSirfurryanimalWales I'm a forum member at intjforum. A site that is fairly moderated. It's aim is to be logical and debate oriented. They don't disallow political debate but quarantined it into a separate club. The admin stated they were tired of the number of complaints, personal attacks and lack of substantial debate (too one sided). It seems like a workable compromise.
@Nerdsmith will take a look
bowman81 · M
Soros made his fortune on international unrest. He plays/played the currency markets and makes money when currencies go up or down. Unrest always creates havoc with currencies and he profits from the fluctuations.

He is less a liberal "do-gooder" than an opportunist who discovered he can sow the seeds of unrest that he profits from.
Xuan12 · 31-35, M
I'm not aware if he does believe in a borderless world, I don't read about him outside of when somebody starts having a hysterical meltdown. But anyway, if he did, there's an obvious short-term benefit to the wealthy. Unhindered ability to see capital flowing anywhere in the world would send businesses sky rocketing. In the long term it would probably play out better for humanity as well. That is, if regional/sectarian interests become so diminished that effort is no longer wasted pursuing them, and instead redirected toward anything that benefits the human race as a whole.
SW-User
He's an imperialist for a small minority to rule on everything... it's worked for him. He just keeps quiet and doing what he does... as if no one could stop him.
4meAndyou · F
@SW-User He is also a communist with an avowed intention to bring the United States to its knees. He supports globalism worldwide for that reason.
SW-User
He made his first billion dollars playing currencies against each other in Europe. That's why.
4meAndyou · F
@SW-User Does that mean he is planning to do something machiavellian in the US? From what I see so far, his influence is very destructive.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
It wouldn't. He's a rich liberal internationalist, not an evil genius.

 
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