Do you hate SJWs?

@Jackaloftheazuresand Its mostly not the left who criticise them and the left is not a monolithic thing. Some on the left are progressive on economic issues and moderates on the culture war. What is called the left has a huge range of opinions.

In the Jim Crow era, you got the Dixiecrats who were pro segregation and also Keynesian. You get Marxists who are anti feminist brocialists and so on.

However, most of the anti SJW stuff does come from the right and the leftists who go along with it are wrong to do so. Maybe some are nor aware of the agenda, maybe some just want the clicks and maybe some are not actually left on a lot of issues.

@Burnley123 Yes they do, I even gave you the channels to watch. If you can say the right does something then of course the left is also a group.

How are they wrong?

@JackaloftheazuresandThe individual criticisms of Sjws on those channels are correct. Of course they are, or they wouldn't pick it as a straw man.

The point is, why pick that as a priority to criticise? The Amazing Atheist has a visceral hatred for Anita Sarkesian. She is just a boring average liberal feminist who talks about making some computer games more PC. Personally I think she is half way right but (as a leftist myself) I really don't care either way. I'm more interested in political economics, stopping the rise of the far right other aspects of the culture war.

Any youtube channel which caters to the needs and prejudices of a young, male and gamer audience will get a lot of clicks. If it can be framed as classical liberal, it can so reach an audience which is not predesposed to the political right.

The classical liberals who do this [i]are[/i] enabling the right though because they are justifying the same narrative. Chris Hitchens (who is the father of the youtube skeptic community) used 'liberal' principles to justify the Iraq War. Sam Harris does something similar. If your main priority is to defend the right on free speech grounds and to frame left wing ideas as fringe (by emphasising the worst ones) then this can support a right wing agenda.

I know we disagree and I am debating stridently but I don't think you are a bad guy. I just disagree with your take on this. I think sometimes the left is wrong on cultural issues and that many young white men are in disadvantaged positions.

@bijouxbroussard They came to provoke. Who do you determine to be White Supremacists? The definition and the determination by SJWs is not the same thing. Still, having a fit and destroying your own community is a foolish thing to do. Instead of anyone saying "Hey, stop breaking things", they say "Hey stop provoking SJWs and forcing them to break things".

@SuicideBiProxy2 A lot of people on the left have somewhat mixed feelings on Antifa, though Antifa do have a policy of violence against NAZIs only.

Yes, the right wing Berkley protesters were white supremescist.

[i]How dare you accuse someone doing a NAZI salute and wearing a Swastika of being a Nazi! You goddam SJW freaks will say that Hitler is a NAZI next! This is how the left shut down free speech and they are the real fascists
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Breaking Godwin's Law. Ten points to Griffendor.

@SuicideBiProxy2 [quote] They came to provoke. Who do you determine to be White Supremacists? [/quote]

People who affiliate themselves with the KKK, Neo-Nazis or Alt-Right. And they absolutely come to provoke. If the "Young Republicans" wanted to have their ideas seriously listened to, they could bring in representatives who are moderates, right ? They don't have to invite hate-mongers. that would be like the Black Student Union at Brigham Young (yes, they have one) inviting Louis Farrakhan or Al Sharpton to speak for Black History Month and daring anyone to get upset---in the name of free speech.

Although Al Sharpton's a lot nicer than some people think. 😉

@SW-User Not really. The Far Right at least expresses an idea. SJWs just scream and cry.

@Jackaloftheazuresand Dude, it's not. I'm from a completely different tradition and think that SJW is a silly name for a politics that is not my priority

Personally, I posted because I've spent a lot of time on YouTube. The anti SJW thing is so overblown and so boring that it makes me want to agree with them. It's hard to find their videos though but check out contrapoints.

@MartinII Its not a specific organisation. Some student activists call themselves social justice warriors, though its mostly used as an insult term. An SJW typically stridently defends the rights of minority groups. They are on the left of the cultural war but have little influence outside campus politics.

@Burnley123 OK that’s helpful, thanks.

@katielass used by whom?