Republicans vote to take away paid sick leave

@FoxyQueen This wasn't federal so dunno what you're talking about, I don't believe I said it was. Individual states can mandate sick pay and that's what was happening. It only affects states that Republicans lead in as there's a few but basically this is what is meant when they say repubs revoked state laws, not federal. The laws require some sort of sick pay in most states.


That's an opinion, not a fact. It's your opinion that states can't have sick pay. And honestly? People like you make a good case why workers should just do the bare minimum as if we get sick our job isn't protected if management wants to be petty at billion a year corporations.

@FoxyQueen
Honestly the rest of the world has more work rights than us and they aren't going bankrupt or anything so I think this is mostly fear mongering.

I've worked for businesses that had sick pay leave, most of them have been around for years so I'm not getting where these businesses would leave.

Most countries also having living wages and 4 day work weeks. The United States is at least 5 to 10 years behind other countries. I would also say infrastructure as well since most countries have high speed rails and working on eco and tech stuff.


It's an opinion because republicans are just guessing what would happen if they had sick leave and honestly? It's better than not having employees due to firing them if they get sick so no sick pay makes no sense.

@FoxyQueen
Sorry if I assumed your position, that was wrong of me. I just don't get what makes republicans think those things. I've left good jobs with good pay because their policies were too strict and mostly based in conservative thinking. Most of those businesses have high turn over rates so I don't get where they think it will be successful. Most red states are dirt poor and I don't get where they think corporations are their nanny whose going to save them like it's the sci fi video game Outer Worlds or something

@SatanBurger Reagan era politics became very pro-corporation and after that, republicans always sided with the interests of business, despite their claim to being the "family values" party.

Is there proof that by forcing companies to pay sick leave causes them to leave? I don't know, but I doubt it. It may hurt smaller businesses, but republicans have never cared about them very much. They don't contribute to the GPD or stock market, and therefore have no vlaue.

My reply was based on your question of what is wrong with them. Politically, nothing. They are following their party ideology to a T.

I am not a reactionist when I see things that are good for the overall of the people being dismantled. Instead, I look to see what about it makes sense to the group or party doing it.

In the Art of War, Sun Tzu says it is vital that we understand the motivations and premises of oir enemy so that we may be abke yo bring them to the table to create peace. War is the last objective, or should be. If we understand our enemy's goals, we may be able to compromise with them.

While I doubt a compromise can be made here, it is still important to understand the republicans and their moves so that at least, we may be able to mitigate harm, or stop it all together to prevent it.

So far, those opposing this current administration seem to keep being hit from left field because they don't bother to learn the enemy and understand what their strategies are. This is causing more unrest and fear, which is just what the republicans want. The more off balance we are, the easier we are to deal with.

This is why it is important to understand them. That way, we know how to move forward instead of constantly trying to find our center of gravity again. They won't give us that opportunity if we let them.

Knowledge is power.

@FoxyQueen I do sympathize with your initial sentiment but overall message not really. I do respect you feel that way though. I mean there's nothing that can be done on my part but to peacefully protest and keep doing things where I can peacefully but the idea of not going to war in by itself I feel is not logical as the fascists motivations are not logical so there's no way to really reason with the unreasonable.

Ice broke into a family's house and killed their dog who was locked up in the bathroom. The family told ice they were legal and the dog was locked up but had to put it in its kennel and if ice would allow them to do that before they look around.

Ice entered anyways, opens the door to the bathroom where the dog is and murders it.

You don't need to understand the motives of fascists, it's similar to trying to reason with nazis when they were doing experiments on jewish babies.

Just like when they peacefully marched for better conditions and no police immunity after police been killing black people for just standing in their yards or taking out the trash.

Then the riots happened and people asked, "how can they be so violent?"

Without understanding that before that, protesters were peacefully marching and still do. But nothing gets done. Why? Because while people have their own motivations in life, they may not care and only want what they want so can't be reasoned with. Sometimes understanding doesn't really get things done much in the way that if you tell McDonald's that you know some great profound thing they are not going to feed you just because you know that.

So you even if you understand one's motivations, I feel like their motivations don't really matter if there's no reason to be found. Once a person is delusional, there's nothing that can be done unless you want to force them into getting mental help for their psychosis and delusions.

@FoxyQueen Okay I can agree with that more