Absolutely stunned to hear that USA has the most maternal deaths in the world.
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Absolutely. Those who have less money have less access to healthcare, which makes all the difference.
It’s the same in the U.S.
[quote]There’s a major disparity in how women of color are treated for pregnancy-related complications. Findings show that Black moms are roughly three times more likely to die in childbirth or of pregnancy-related complications than non-Hispanic white women, while Native American and Alaskan Native women are about two-and-a-half times more likely.
The reasons why are complicated. Women of color are more likely to have risk factors like diabetes, high blood pressure, late prenatal care and obesity. Poverty and a lack of access to health care increase the chances that these issues end up going untreated — and resulting in issues that could lead to maternal death.
Institutionalized racism plays a big part, too. When women of color with access to health care speak up about a concern, they’re more likely to be dismissed and ultimately go untreated.
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It’s the same in the U.S.
[quote]There’s a major disparity in how women of color are treated for pregnancy-related complications. Findings show that Black moms are roughly three times more likely to die in childbirth or of pregnancy-related complications than non-Hispanic white women, while Native American and Alaskan Native women are about two-and-a-half times more likely.
The reasons why are complicated. Women of color are more likely to have risk factors like diabetes, high blood pressure, late prenatal care and obesity. Poverty and a lack of access to health care increase the chances that these issues end up going untreated — and resulting in issues that could lead to maternal death.
Institutionalized racism plays a big part, too. When women of color with access to health care speak up about a concern, they’re more likely to be dismissed and ultimately go untreated.
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@bijouxbroussard on either side of the isle.
bijouxbroussard · F
@DarkHeaven I understand. My parents are devout, but they’re also pro-choice liberals. It’s mostly why they left the South, though they left family behind who are like themselves. But @LeopoldBloom lives in Georgia, where I spent four years in college, and the people he’s describing are [b]real[/b], and they are the reason girls and women who need to terminate pregnancies, even to save their own lives, now have to leave the state. That’s no reflection on your loved ones. It’s just the reality in some places, now.
@bijouxbroussard I believe it. I see it on tv and hear it here too. 🖤🤗
BlueVeins · 22-25
First part isn't actually true, the highest maternal mortality rates occur in Sierra Leone, CAR, Chad, Nigeria, and South Sudan. But the US does have a [i]gigantic[/i] problem with lack of healthcare access among lower income folks, which is a consequence of our privatized healthcare system. Other wealthy countries with single payer such as France, Norway, and Canada enjoy significantly lower rates. The racial disparity only underscores the extent to which race and class issues are intertwined in this country.
LeopoldBloom · M
@BlueVeins Total numbers, not rate.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@LeopoldBloom That would be meaningless, as the US is the third most populous country on Earth. Also untrue; China, India, Nigeria, Indonesia, the DRC, and... really, far too many others to count have higher total numbers.
LeopoldBloom · M
@BlueVeins I meant the OP was talking about total numbers. However, the maternal death rate in the US is very high compared to other developed countries, and it's worse for BIPOC women.
deadgerbil · 22-25, F
I thought it was relative to other wealthy nations. Still tho, there's no excuse for it. Healthcare isn't prioritized in this country bc that is sOcIaLisM. Couple that with the continued assaults on planned Parenthood which provides a ton of services related to women's health. It's embarrassing how regressive the US can be
InOtterWords · F
@deadgerbil i think generally healthcare in the US is of an exceptional standard worldwide....which is why this statistic is so shocking
bijouxbroussard · F
@deadgerbil I’m so sorry. And not a one of those people would’ve adopted or supported that child, had it been born. 😞
bijouxbroussard · F
@InOtterWords It is if you can afford it. That’s the problem. If you’re not destitute, for example, if you work a job that doesn’t provide coverage, you may earn too much money for public assistance.
MalteseFalconPunch · 36-40, T
You’d be surprised by probably every statistic about the US. American Exceptionalism is rhetoric, not reality.
Also if you compare suicide rates to the human development index we’re number 2. Meaning with one exception all nations with higher suicide rates are also much much poorer and “less developed”.
Everything here is a double tragedy. Not only does it happen but we have the resources to stop it, we just don’t.
Also if you compare suicide rates to the human development index we’re number 2. Meaning with one exception all nations with higher suicide rates are also much much poorer and “less developed”.
Everything here is a double tragedy. Not only does it happen but we have the resources to stop it, we just don’t.
Roundandroundwego · 56-60
InOtterWords · F
@DarkHeaven it's not money though, "a wealthy black woman with a degree is still more likely to die than a white woman with no high school diploma"
Another quote from Joe Kennedy iii
Another quote from Joe Kennedy iii
@InOtterWords institutional bias, maybe. that’s the only thing I can think of to account for the difference. but that’s a problem too. big problem.
NerdyPotato · M
Scribbles · 31-35, F
@NerdyPotato @InOtterWords This really resonated with me, since in post-roe, I've encountered many stressful obstacles to miscarriage care. You could be bleeding all over, have a dilated cervix, some confirmed blood tests of failing hormone levels, an ultrasound....
And yet... me and my husband were left wondering if no doctor was legally allowed to provide any care unless I was actively dying from infection. No option for medicine to help my body pass all the tissue. No option for anything like a dnc.
It's barbaric to refuse to treat the mother because an embryo that is actively dying with no chance of survival or is already dead has more of a right to life and health.
It's made us afraid to keep trying to be honest.
And yet... me and my husband were left wondering if no doctor was legally allowed to provide any care unless I was actively dying from infection. No option for medicine to help my body pass all the tissue. No option for anything like a dnc.
It's barbaric to refuse to treat the mother because an embryo that is actively dying with no chance of survival or is already dead has more of a right to life and health.
It's made us afraid to keep trying to be honest.
NerdyPotato · M
@Scribbles yes, it's horrible... Everyone knows that in these situations, this care is needed and going to happen either way. But instead of doing it straight away to keep discomfort at a minimum and prevent complications, women have to wait until their life is at risk before the inevitable is done. That's not pro-life, and the only defense people in support of these laws have is deny these situations occur when they clearly do.
@NerdyPotato I have no words. Horrible.
scrood · 26-30
80% of black women are obese
What is being done to normalize big body or stop shaming morbidly obese people?
*crickets*
What is being done to normalize big body or stop shaming morbidly obese people?
*crickets*
scrood · 26-30
@InOtterWords Liberals always have problems with facts
InOtterWords · F
@scrood seems like you cannot cope with the facts i gave in return, is your mind so closed?
scrood · 26-30
@InOtterWords You didn't give any facts, just more blame on racisss ole witey and raciss math and science, except when The Science (TM) pronounces, in the vestige of Ouchie Fauci. 80 PERCENT and your explication is: dass racissss
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samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@InOtterWords many are in at risk categories, so termination might prevent the pregnancy from progressing that far.
bijouxbroussard · F
@InOtterWords As someone else pointed out, if women who want babies are dying, how many more will die post-roe ?
LeopoldBloom · M
@bijouxbroussard Eventually, a particularly horrific case will go viral the way the Savita Halappanavar case did in Ireland, and the people will demand a national law guaranteeing abortion rights.
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