In the name of science and weirdness, what turns a patient

@DeWayfarer get off of that nonsense, if you are still trying to claim COVID was a hoax and the vaccine did not save millions of lives, get some real science education!

@samueltyler2 I actually purposely tried to avoid covid specifically.

Perhaps you don't know though I always been a advocate for the covid shots.

Yet there's always a first test subject at some point in any vaccine development.

And it always done with consent. That human subject is usually called the guinea pig.

@DeWayfarer text is a difficult way to communicate so I apologize if i misinterpreted your comment. Having been involved in many therapeutic trials, the early volunteer is hopefully not a patient, but a much needed subject. Later trials deal with efficacy and those subjects are already patients.

I still have no idea what the op is looking for in the question.

@samueltyler2 he hasn't responded in any way to my reply either. Yet I know him a bit. He purposely posts in this group because he has a odd sense of humor. Given from where he is located the humor is odd as well there.

@DeWayfarer says True.
And before any human testing, the Covid mRNA vaccines were tested in primates. And before the Covid mRNA vaccine was ever dreamed of, other mRNA vaccines were being tested for other diseases: an mRNA prostate cancer treatment was approved for use in humans in 2013 according to https://www.avantorsciences.com/us/en/support/knowledge-center/history-of-mrna-vaccines

I have links to the mRNA vaccine primate testing data from both Moderna & Pfizer if anyone is interested.

@ElwoodBlues you are preaching to the choir. The radical right has put back science and are risking lives!

@ElwoodBlues I'm certain you do. Please read the title of the group. I'm certain the OP would find the responses humorous. 🙃

@DeWayfarer maybe with an emphasis on dark!

@samueltyler2 exactly! See my other reply.