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what right wing attacks'?? Responding to a post here, that will likely vanish


] it is a hyperbolic statement "hordes"[/b] even so..
ODDLY! the rights here[ says the same thing[/i] about needing to be armed in order to handle the
1) blue helmeted UN troops coming to take the guns
2) marauding bands of black people leaving the cites to invade their homes
3) those durn Mexicans the trump talked about .. and the ones that pick all the crops ?
the queers and such comming for the children

so far nothing like that has happened,, yet so many over-arm themselves against such a thing?

Only one of the right wing actions below constitutes a horde

But a lot of dead bodies
[quote]never seen, never attack anyone?[/quote]
lets not forget
the Oklahoma City bombing,( 168 dead)
Centennial Olympic Park bombing ( only one dead but over 100 wounded)
,Knoxville Unitarian Universalist church shooting,
Overland Park Jewish Community Center shooting,
2011 Tucson Shooting
, Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting
,,2014 Las Vegas shootings,
2017 Portland train attack ,
Charlottesville car attack
2018 Jeffersontown shooting,,
2019 El Paso shooting,
2020 boogaloo killings,
some would include the United States Capitol attack, 2022
Buffalo shooting[,
Pittsburgh synagogue shooting,
Louisiana black church fires,
2019 Dallas courthouse shooting
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Carissimi · F
To assume these are all right wing attacks is preposterous. I’d say more, but it’s too late/early for such arguments.
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@Carissimi The vast majority of those shooters he listed were determined in court to have been radicalized by far-right websites and message boards. It's not a prosperous claim. Their right-wing bias was accepted as admissible evidence by the judges overseeing many of these cases.
DavidT8899 · 22-25, M
@TinyViolins There are horrible things done by both left and right wing extremists.I dont think anyone whos honest and possesses common sense denies that.Heres the problem:whenever a right wing nut attacks,the mainstream media is the first to lead the charge and use it as a weapon against the opposing party.Whenever a left wing nut does the same,you'll hear little to nothing.
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@DavidT8899 Depends on where you get your news from. I try to diversify between left- and right-leaning sources to get a more complete picture. And you're right that horrible things are done by people of different extremist beliefs, not just right-wing.

However, your entire statement is coming off as a false equivalence fallacy by neglecting how lopsided the frequency of attacks are by admittedly right-wing attackers. Various research groups have studied this and there is no doubt that right-wing extremists are far more likely to commit acts of violence than left-wing ones


DavidT8899 · 22-25, M
@TinyViolins Even assuming that your information is accurate,is it truly fair to equate frequency with guilt?Irregardless of what group was identified with how many violent acts,its not seemly to blame the political party for the actions of that person.
DavidT8899 · 22-25, M
@TinyViolins Also,its not "false equivalence"to point out the fact that virtually all mainstream news organizations are in bed
with and run interference for the left wing,its just a fact.
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@DavidT8899 It's not my information. This has been studied by government agencies, NGOs, think tanks, independent journalists, data and technology experts, and leaked social media internal audits, and they all come to the same conclusion that right-wing extremism is dwarfing any violence from the left. That isn't to say left-wing extremists are innocent little lambs, but the clear and present danger is right-wing domestic terrorism.

Similar research in parts of Europe and Australia come to the same conclusion, that right-wing extremism is directly leading to acts of violence in those countries, so it goes beyond political parties or even American politics. It's an ideology that feeds on anger and hatred because the people who adhere to it are especially prone to anger and hatred.

You are aware that there are other news outlets besides the mainstream ones, right? They're not the only players in the game. Bringing them up is a red-herring to take away from the fact that domestic terrorist acts are, demonstrably, being carried out predominantly by right-wing extremists.
DavidT8899 · 22-25, M
@TinyViolins Yes,Im sure those Antifa terrorists and rioters that burned cities,attacked policemen and killed people during the summer of 2020 were all right wing!
DavidT8899 · 22-25, M
@TinyViolins And yes,Im aware that there are other news outlets than the mainstream,but it's navie to think that they are not the ones that will have most ofvthe influence.
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@DavidT8899 Dance around the issue all you want, you won't be taken seriously by equating some broken windows and looted business with buying high-capacity military-style weapons for the sole purpose of targeting minority groups.

Antifa has only ever been responsible for killing one person, and you're treating them like boogeymen while completely ignoring the fact that more than 3/4ths of all terrorist attacks on US soil are a result of right-wing extremists. Islamic extremists and incels make up the rest, to show you the kind of company you keep.

But let's go ahead and ignore that while we hold a moment of silence for the policemen that suffered a few cuts and bruises during the 2020 protests.
DavidT8899 · 22-25, M
@TinyViolins No offense,but arguing with a person such as yourself is a waste of time.Billions of dollars worth of property damage?Scores of policeman injured,many seriously?Dozens of people killed?That is "a few cuts and brusies"?You are either very misinformed or very stupid.
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@DavidT8899 Dancing around the issue yet again. The mental gymnastics you employ to avoid talking about actual terrorist attacks that are killing people is astounding. We're talking about hundreds of lives that have been taken in the last decade alone by right-wing perpetrators, and you're talking about broken windows and armed policemen that suffered non-life-threatening injuries. What about all the policemen injured, including one fatally, during the Jan. 6th insurrection? Are you going to try to spin that into an Antifa conspiracy too?

There were 19 deaths that happened in or near the over 9000 protests that took place that summer, and of those, only 5 could be linked or presumed to be linked to protesters. 3 were killed by police officers, 2 were killed by right-wing agitators, and the rest were related to opportunistic criminal activity in the vicinity of these protests. None of the people arrested on federal charges had any link to Antifa. Meanwhile, the police chief in Minneapolis, where the protests first started, has directly stated that right-wing agitators were coming in and starting or inciting violence. DHS and FBI investigators have concluded the same thing.

But that's all old news that doesn't matter anymore. You're like a broken record with this antifa/BLM false equivalence. We're talking about actual people being routinely targeted and killed by right-wing radicals, and the only comment you care to make is "what about antifa?" There have been dozens of far-right terrorist attacks that have been carried out on US soil resulting in hundreds of deaths, and you're sitting there weeping about some buildings that were burned a couple years ago.

Do you have anything at all to say about this right-wing violence, or are you just going to keep deflecting to some talking points you learned to parrot?
DavidT8899 · 22-25, M
@TinyViolins You call it dancing around the issue.I call it acknowledging reality.Im only going to say this only once more:violence from extremist groups of ANY ideology should be publicly denounced and legally prosecuted.The problem is that it is usually only done so when its committed on one side of the asile.If you convinced yourself that it isnt so,that is both your right and your problem.Please let this be the last exchange between us;I feel that discussion with you is a waste 🗑 😉 of time.In other words:DONT MESSAGE ME ANYMORE!
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@DavidT8899 Literally anytime any property damage takes place, antifa or BLM are the first groups blamed. Both the Las Vegas shooter and the Nashville bomber were claimed to be antifa by multiple right-wing news outlets before it was discovered otherwise.

Even during the Jan. 6th insurrection, members of congress and multiple Fox News commentators were publicly blaming antifa for the violence, even when not a single person in that crowd had any ties to them. Left-wing radicals get blamed even when they're not at fault. To pretend like nobody is ever pointing fingers at the left is complete, unverified, nonsense.