Do you own a Tesla? Or would you want to own one in the future?
I mean I like cars but I'm not sold on the idea of buying one Elon Musk manufactured 馃槄
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rfhh1959 路 61-69, M
In principle I do not have an issue with an electric vehicle the problem is charging the vehicle. If I would take a long road trip I have to allow huge blocks of time to recharge the vehicle and hope that the charger is available unlike filling a gas tank. As a side note, I've read a few articles recently that say state that it takes seven years for an EV battery to get to carbon neutral based on what was done to manufacture it. An EV battery theoretically at this time has a 10 year lifespan which means it takes seven years to get the carbon neutral and then you get three years of being carbon free. We just don't have the technology yet and the technology we have is not at a price point that makes sense for the average consumer.
samueltyler2 路 80-89, M
@rfhh1959 where did you see that statement? I'd love to see it. I would like to see the comparisons to an ICE, oh, wait, it can never reach carbon neutrality.
rfhh1959 路 61-69, M
@samueltyler2 I am not finding the article I read but here is one that supports the position
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2023/08/when-buying-an-ev-increases-your-carbon-footprint/
Also remember this an ev is never truly carbon neutral as long as it's pulling electricity off the grid that has been created with fossil fuel.
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2023/08/when-buying-an-ev-increases-your-carbon-footprint/
Also remember this an ev is never truly carbon neutral as long as it's pulling electricity off the grid that has been created with fossil fuel.
samueltyler2 路 80-89, M
@rfhh1959 that is an amazingly interesting article. It contains not actual data, only summarizes. It leaves more unanswered questions than it answers. For example saying an EV parked more than driven takes a certain time to become carbon neutral and that is related the number of miles driven may be true, i have to see the data, but during that same period the ICE vehicle's carbon n footprint starting with it's manufacture, than use of gasoline, oil, antifreeze, etc, is increasing, not decreasing. In areas, which use coal the generate electricity, you are correct about the carbon use for generation of electricity, but that has been calculated as still less than ICE using gasoline which requires carbon to produce and then use in the vehicle. The use of coal has drastically decreased over the past few decades, because it actually became less economical.
For those of us who breath air though, the EV puts out no pollutants while the ICE continues to put out a host of dangerous chemicals, the diesels in trucks and buses are really travelling carcinogen spreaders.
The situation though, climate change, is an existential one. Unless we Don's method NG now, asap, we will never get clean air, never stop the rise in temperatures that are precipitating more frequent and stronger storms, floods, you name it.
For those of us who breath air though, the EV puts out no pollutants while the ICE continues to put out a host of dangerous chemicals, the diesels in trucks and buses are really travelling carcinogen spreaders.
The situation though, climate change, is an existential one. Unless we Don's method NG now, asap, we will never get clean air, never stop the rise in temperatures that are precipitating more frequent and stronger storms, floods, you name it.