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JohnnySpot · 56-60, M
HumanEarth · 56-60, F
@JohnnySpot I believe you, I heard about that car.
The car that ran water. The inventor was poisoned
The car that ran water. The inventor was poisoned
JohnnySpot · 56-60, M
@HumanEarth He even grew vast fields of hemp and yes bad things happened to many other inventors.
The photo does show an electric charging station that is powered by a diesel generator, but it leaves out key context and gives the impression that such stations are common.
The charging station in the photo was created by Jon Edwards, an Australian, in 2018. He combined an electric vehicle charger from a company called Tritium with a diesel generator. PolitiFact mentioned him in a similar fact check in 2021 after reading about his story in the Australian electric vehicle news site The Driven.
Edwards told The Driven in 2018 that his goal was to test whether such a station could be a temporary solution for electric vehicle drivers traveling long distances in remote locations, and how fuel consumption compared with diesel-fueled vehicles.
The test, as described in a post on the Tesla Owners Club of Western Australia website, showed that "a stand alone DC EV-charging skid powered by diesel generator for remote locations with inadequate power delivers fuel consumption results are very comparable but on most occasions better than equivalent diesel powered passenger vehicles."
Edwards told The Driven in 2021 that he got "hammered on social media" for using a diesel-powered generator, so instead looked into using vegetable oil waste, instead of diesel fuel.
There are diesel fuel-powered EV charging stations available in the U.S. — Larson Electronics sells one for about $236,000. It describes it as "a portable fast charging station for temporary sites and remote areas."
The charging station in the photo was created by Jon Edwards, an Australian, in 2018. He combined an electric vehicle charger from a company called Tritium with a diesel generator. PolitiFact mentioned him in a similar fact check in 2021 after reading about his story in the Australian electric vehicle news site The Driven.
Edwards told The Driven in 2018 that his goal was to test whether such a station could be a temporary solution for electric vehicle drivers traveling long distances in remote locations, and how fuel consumption compared with diesel-fueled vehicles.
The test, as described in a post on the Tesla Owners Club of Western Australia website, showed that "a stand alone DC EV-charging skid powered by diesel generator for remote locations with inadequate power delivers fuel consumption results are very comparable but on most occasions better than equivalent diesel powered passenger vehicles."
Edwards told The Driven in 2021 that he got "hammered on social media" for using a diesel-powered generator, so instead looked into using vegetable oil waste, instead of diesel fuel.
There are diesel fuel-powered EV charging stations available in the U.S. — Larson Electronics sells one for about $236,000. It describes it as "a portable fast charging station for temporary sites and remote areas."
ArishMell · 70-79, M
This raises another point I can illustrate with:
Allegedly, a service-station on the M3 motorway near London had or had its rank of chargers powered by its own diesel generator, housed in a separate building, allegedly because they were installed before the public supply to the property was made adequate.
However, we must be careful of report veracity...
1) Was it true and is it still true?
2) Was any such installation continuous or a reserve for power-cuts? Power cuts in any given area are relatively rare in the UK and usually last less than a few hours, though still inconvenient for BEV drivers in mid-journey.
3) Was / is the generator already there anyway, for the service-area generally?
4) Even if true and for continuously feeding the chargers, what of its location?
I think it is some 30 or 40 miles even from the M3 / M25 junction. Many of its customers would be commuters to and from the capital, or travelling to and from London's four airports. Though probably not to the several, main railway termini much nearer the city centre.
So would electric cars charged from a diesel-alternator set a good way from the edge of London, be less polluting overall and certainly so in the urban area, than the equivalent vehicles with Diesel engines?
Allegedly, a service-station on the M3 motorway near London had or had its rank of chargers powered by its own diesel generator, housed in a separate building, allegedly because they were installed before the public supply to the property was made adequate.
However, we must be careful of report veracity...
1) Was it true and is it still true?
2) Was any such installation continuous or a reserve for power-cuts? Power cuts in any given area are relatively rare in the UK and usually last less than a few hours, though still inconvenient for BEV drivers in mid-journey.
3) Was / is the generator already there anyway, for the service-area generally?
4) Even if true and for continuously feeding the chargers, what of its location?
I think it is some 30 or 40 miles even from the M3 / M25 junction. Many of its customers would be commuters to and from the capital, or travelling to and from London's four airports. Though probably not to the several, main railway termini much nearer the city centre.
So would electric cars charged from a diesel-alternator set a good way from the edge of London, be less polluting overall and certainly so in the urban area, than the equivalent vehicles with Diesel engines?
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@ArishMell It does actually make sense if you throw a battery into the loop... A diesel generator is far more efficient running under a constant, steady load and speed, than it is in traffic with variable spped and stop start. An electric motor is obviously cleaner in traffic, but also returns far more torque to the road when it is needed.. So a charging station calibrated to supply what the location required should be cleaner than the equivalent in diesel powered vehicles in normal city traffic.😷
calicuz · 56-60, M
How many gallons of Diesel does the generator hold?
How many cars can the generator charge before it needs refueling?
How many gallons of gasoline are the fully charged electric cars not burning?
Compare the number of gallons of gasoline not being burned to the number of gallons of Diesel that are being burned.
DO THE MATH PEOPLE!!! 🙄
How many cars can the generator charge before it needs refueling?
How many gallons of gasoline are the fully charged electric cars not burning?
Compare the number of gallons of gasoline not being burned to the number of gallons of Diesel that are being burned.
DO THE MATH PEOPLE!!! 🙄
calicuz · 56-60, M
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Exactly, those who dismiss things based on "feelings" rather than simple science should rethink what they are being told to think.
Exactly, those who dismiss things based on "feelings" rather than simple science should rethink what they are being told to think.
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WildBill25 · 26-30, M
Like washing your feet with your socks on!
Cantsayno · 56-60, M
Makes a lot of sense?????
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samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
Bizarre!
Bang5luts · M
that will save the environment from greenhouse gases ffs. 😆
yeah but it charges electric cars duh.
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