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Fire sale – 3,000 chinese EVs and gas cars worth $100 million burn at 1,000 degrees.



Photo above - Chinese Fire Drill - a car transporter enroute from China to Mexico burns off the coast of Alaska. I'm guessing fire extinguishers were tried before the crew gave up and abandoned ship. The EVs on board say they were just sleeping, and don't know how this happened either.

Just when I thought it was safe to buy an EV . . . and maybe one of those nifty Chinese BYD electric cars that can be had for under $30K . .. THIS happens. An entire ship full of cars bursts into flames. (see link below).

I’m not picking on the Chinese. But their claims of inventing new and improved magic batteries are clearly bogus. The same thing happened in 2023 to a boatload of Mercedes and Mini EVs.

The current disaster – like the Mercedes incident – apparently involved EVs sleeping quietly in their containers and not pulling any funny business like being recharged or going for a drive at 1am. Snap-crackle-pop. Abandon ship.

Those Chinese EVs were NOT destined for the USA, of course. Even though the ship erupted like a volcano near Alaska. Evidently the quickest way from China to Mexico involves a scenic route past the land of the midnight sun. Anyway, the US coast guard responded immediately, and all 22 crew members were rescued. The abandoned ship continues to burn, drifting aimlessly in busy shipping lanes as a navigational hazard, if you’re sending stuff from Guangzhao to Guadalajara. Microsoft flight simulator may be planning to include oceanic pillars of fire like this for pilots to dodge in their next update.

It's not just EVs. According to the World Shipping Council, 1,300 containers of all sorts end up at the bottom of the ocean annually. Centuries from now archaeologists are going to have a field day, cracking open these commercial tombs and deciphering how our society worshiped cars, refrigerators, and Lakers jerseys.

Okay China . . . I honestly DON’T believe all your press releases earlier this week that you've invented a new battery that goes 1,000 miles on a charge – or 3,000 miles, depending on which state sponsored disinfo troll you read. I don’t believe that battery can recharge in 2 minutes. I’m not even convinced electric cars are the way of the future. The Biden administration added billions to the national debt by throwing money at companies like Exxon to build hydrogen factories.

But just imagine how hot a cargo ship full of hydrogen might burn if it encounters a spark somewhere in the middle of the pacific. Hydrogen never sleeps . . .

I’m just sayin' . . .

22 crew members rescued from lifeboat in North Pacific after ship carrying 3,000 cars catches fire | CNN

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joe438 · 61-69, M
EV car fires are nothing to play around with. I see a few of them per month bin the side of the highways and the firefighters can’t do much except cried control. Homeowners insurance often requires paying a higher premium if you have an EV on the property, I like the idea of electrics, but science needs to invent a better battery.
@joe438 This is the main reason I still do not have an EV. As soon as they have something that won't burst into flames then I will consider one.. The price has to be reasonable though.
jehova · 31-35, M
The easiest answer is too many too fast.
These exploding evs thing has been going on for awhile. At least some of it might be piracy\sabotage. But 1) maybe they are building (assembling) them too quickly mistakes are clearly being made. 2. Maybe transporting too many at one time is the problem? Safety test and best practices have not been established. And 3) the creation of "rapid batteries" is a) apparently highly flamable(unstable) and b) very expensive. C) EV technology is too new and obviously needs more testing.
Too much too fast.
Furthermore i suspect insurance fraud, at least in a few instances. And\or an attempt to "break" the financial system.
GerOttman · 70-79, M
"Eternal Father strong to save
Whose arm has bound the restless wave
Who bids the mighty ocean deep
It's own appointed limits keep
O hear us when we cry to Thee
For those in Peril on the sea"
So your big brain claim is China doesn't have better battery tech (which they objectively do) because cars are still flammable?

Solid logic there.
@georgelong Again. owning one is totally irrelevant whether I own one.


And the claim that a battery in a car is magically a bomb is exactly the point of the fear mongers. That is literally the claim made.
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Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
Commercial shipping rates for EVs must be much higher than for conventional ICE vehicles.

China always claims amazing advances in science. But those claims never hold up under any non Chinese scrutiny.
@Crazywaterspring Detroit is 20 years behind China on EV tech. Pretending otherwise instead of innovating is not going to change that.
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Detroit is years behind the Chinese, Europeans, Koreans and the Japanese. All they care about are massive pick up trucks and oversized SUVs.
@Crazywaterspring In Beijing they already have self driving taxis like Cyberpunk 2077 . Meanwhile Tesla "self driving vehicles" can't see through dust, rain, or mild fog, and can't identify a painted brick wall.
This turns out to be even less of a nothing burger. According to Zodiak Maritime a grand total of 70 out of the 3000 vehicles were EVs.

So typical fear mongering.
@SusanInFlorida ICE batteries will explode under certain conditions, but it is not the battery that starts the fire, usually it is a fuel leak, which is a condition only ICE vehicles have. You can check your local news to find millions of examples of car fires that occur every day in every city everywhere.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@JamesBugman thanks for admitting you have ZERO links or even pictures.

you are a shining example to all the trolls on this site.
@SusanInFlorida No, that is chemistry and physics. You don't need a link for that.


Do you keep your phone in an armoured box?
Apparently that entire ship has sunk in the ocean someplace.
GerOttman · 70-79, M
@JamesBugman from Google ai,

AI Overview



+8
Approximately 26 large cargo ships sank in 2023. This is a decrease from 41 in 2022. Over the past decade, an average of around 70-100 cargo ships per year were lost. These losses include all vessels over 100 gross tons.
If they were smart they would ship the batteries separate from the cars.
joe438 · 61-69, M
@SusanInFlorida When you purchase lithium batteries, each one is individually packaged in a way that nothing can touch it, and that a bunch of them can’t possibly come into contact with each other just to minimize that risk.
@SusanInFlorida In a boat, when you install Lithium batteries, you put them in a fireproof box. https://www.lithiumstoragesolutions.com/
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@JamesBugman i'm not disputing this in any way. but are the boxes fireproof to 1,000 degrees?
iamthe99 · M
Yeah let's burn the planet to a crisp instead! EVs bad! Hydrogen bad! Trump Good!

Drill Baby Drill!!
georgelong · 46-50, M
Smal nuclear plants BEST. I recommend trying to add something HELPFUL to conversations. @iamthe99
georgelong · 46-50, M
Ironically the fire extinguishers were MADE IN CHINA.

 
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