Do you or will you trust FSD (full self driving) vehicles?

There are supposed to be five levels of automation with vehicles. FSD is probably level 5 (fully autonomous).

Do you or would you trust giving up total control of your vehicle other than setting the destination?

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Convivial · 26-30, F

Put it this way.... Autopilot on commercial a/c have been round for a loooong time and regulations state the a pilot must be sitting there while it's control... So what do you think ...😜

NativePortlander1970

@Convivial Most commercial aircraft also don't have any other aircraft or other objects, like mountains, buildings, etc, anywhere near them while on autopilot.

Convivial · 26-30, F

@NativePortlander1970 yes... Definitely less to run into lol

swirlie · F

@Convivial
...but the question didn't ask if you'd trust the self-driving feature while you climbed into the back seat to have a nap, he asked if you trusted giving up total control of your vehicle to the automatic system, other than setting the destination?

NativePortlander1970

@Convivial Therefore less chances of collisions at 35,000 feet, compared to say, 5th Avenue New York City.

Convivial · 26-30, F

@swirlie and I answered it by way of anology...I would not trust it... In time no doubt it will get better and safer but I don't believe we have reached that point yet...

NativePortlander1970

@Convivial I would never trust it.

Convivial · 26-30, F

@NativePortlander1970 it'll get there... Just not yet

NativePortlander1970

@Convivial Hopefully it never does, we'll see crashes rise exponentially near overnight.

zonavar68 · 56-60, M

@Convivial totally autonomous FSD on a car means no monitoring by the 'driver'. Quite different to autopilot on a plane.

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Convivial · 26-30, F

@zonavar68 thanks for that further info...I wonder whether those killed in crashes under FSD would agree it's safe?

NativePortlander1970

@Convivial Exactly

swirlie · F

@zonavar68

totally autonomous FSD on a car means no monitoring by the 'driver'.

No, that is absolutely incorrect. Any vehicle that is totally autonomous FSD by definition, requires monitoring by the driver at all times. That is a prerequisite for it's certification. It is called "Supervised Full Self-Driving", which is also stated in the owner's manual.

swirlie · F

@Convivial

and I answered it by way of anology...I would not trust it... In time no doubt it will get better and safer but I don't believe we have reached that point yet...

..but you made your analogy while comparing a car to an airplane which as you said, requires the pilot to be sitting there when the autopilot is turned on.

If you weren't planning on sitting behind the wheel of your car when you turned this system on, where were you otherwise planning on sitting in the car when you made that analogy comparison?

Convivial · 26-30, F

@swirlie I wasn't... If I had such a vehicle I would be driving it

zonavar68 · 56-60, M

@swirlie well some people fantasise about having sex on the go in the back of their fully autonomous car (Tesla etc) while it's driving itself. Art imitating life or life imitating art? 8-)

swirlie · F

@zonavar68
The only way I would buy an FSD is if I could in fact have sex in the back seat of my fully autonomous car while it's driving itself to the airport and hopefully has no problem finding my private jet parked somewhere discrete. But, if I have to stop what I'm doing to lean over the front seat to tell it what to do or where to go, then I'll just climb over that dam seat and drive it myself and be done with it all!