Things I've Noticed About the New Generation

I'm honestly curious why you think the expectations are wrong. I mean all you have to do is get a car, a job, move out and go to college. Why do think that's wrong or maybe expecting too much? I'm assuming your parents did it before, I did it. Why do you feel like that's unfair?

@DanniRoxi:

Because you didn't choose it, now did you?
Who says that my duty in life is to get a car, a job, go through education, and then working all my life?
Are you telling me that?
Then you're what's wrong with this world.

It does not matter if the changes humanity has done to our lives are irreversible to our own capabilities.
You can say "it's just this", but no it's not something small, it's not something that should be expected of us. It's our lives. Just because you did it, does not make it fair for someone else to suffer for it.

It is a fact that the way we're living now is unnatural, it's sickening, and the pressure put on people is damaging to say the least. Young as old.

@MartinTheFirst: Okay I sort of understand where you're coming from. My parents were very hard on me. Very very hard on me. I hated them as a teenager does. But when I got older I thank them for doing that to me. Because now I have the job of my dreams, I have a car and i'm very financially stable. I look back and I realize that they weren't trying to kill me with stress. They pushed me because they cared about me and because of all the pain and hardship they put me through, I made it and I can live out a peaceful life now.

Whether you like it or not, you have to deal with it. Doing things like getting a car, getting a job, moving out,etc. It's all to make you a better person and to become a financially stable adult who can make a positive difference in peoples lives. Sitting there and hating on the system doesn't get you anywhere. Someone told me once "If your not a rebel when your a teenager, you got no heart. If you're not a part of the establishment as an adult, you've got no brains."

Sitting there and being hateful about everything won't get you anywhere. You've got heart but you need to get with the program before it's too late. I made it and i'm not any different then you are.

@DanniRoxi: Of course they did, because they had to. But I am sure, that if they didn't have to, they wouldn't. They'd let you enjoy your life, they'd let you feel free. That is the difference. This world forces us to do these things, but let's not tell ourselves that we have to do these things so much that we believe these are the "right" things to do, and that this is "the way it's supposed to be" because it's not.

Of course, you have to deal with it if you want to live, but that doesn't even have to be said, any living creature understands this simple rule, but some are just not strong enough to do everything everyone else do. I surely am not, I found my own way through the things that I can't do, that others can, by doing things I can do, that others can't. It's not about hating the system, it's about understanding what is indeed right, and what is supposed to be. If you don't let yourself believe in what's right, then you're living in delusions. Even if you had to eat shit every day of your life, just because that's how it was done in this world, you wouldn't tell yourself that shit was good for you. then let's not do that mistake to what we're going through now. A lot of it is pretty shit and we have to let ourselves think that, because that's how we save our humanity, by understanding what is wrong and right.

@MartinTheFirst: That's just the hard work ethic. That's just how it is man. Sure my teenage years were hell but now I get to live out the rest of my life in peace. I wouldn't do anything different. It's like the old saying "Freedom isn't free." Freedom is a reward that comes after hard work not before. I know that sucks. I've felt like how you do. But that's just the way it is. That's the world you grew up in. Being angry and wishing things were different just isn't going to get you anywhere. You have to play along and if you don't your going to be scrapping for money to survive the rest of your life and make life harder then it should be. You have to be strong and not give up. Life always rewards people that don't give up.

@DanniRoxi: Rest of your life in peace? You've surely been fooled by this world's games my friend, you will understand that one day...

@MartinTheFirst: Excuse me? I don't work a day in my life doing the thing I love most and I make very good money do it. That's what happiness is and of course things will go wrong eventually. But I'll always come back from it because i'm strong enough too. I've found success and I'm very happy. All that hard work that you hate so much, it pays off. Getting a car pays off when without it I wouldn't have gotten all the job offers I have. College pays off when without it I would still be a busboy barely paying rent.

Between the two of us, you've fooled yourself into thinking that because you aren't successful, nobody else can be. You aren't unintelligent. Surely you see that just siting there like an angry child won't give you success but still you convince yourself to think like that because you don't want to take responsibility for the financial hole you've dug yourself because of your own inability to live an independent free adult life. Instead of I dunno, learning something from the wisdom and life experience I've been trying to give you, out of sheer human kindness on my part by the way. You just lash out in anger and nihilism. This goes back to the meaning of my post. It's not the world's fault that you're like this. It's [b]your[/b] fault. Sooner you accept that the sooner you can move on. But it seems like you have a lot of anger to get past first.

@DanniRoxi: Mate, you don't know me and my successes. You'll understand someday what I told you. There is no lasting peace in this kind of system.

@MartinTheFirst: I don't need to know you. It's more than incredibly obvious the hatred you have is a result of the frustration you feel with the system. You feel like you were cheated by being born into a society that you clearly don't perform well at. But being pissed off and angry will not get you anywhere. I'm literally living proof that you're wrong. So are all the people I work with. You could argue that their is no lasting peace in life at all and you would be right. But what you're looking for is on the inside not the outside.

I know that on the outside world, problems will always come my way. But on the inside, I feel everlasting peace. I feel it in my emotions because I'm living the life I want to. I'm telling you all of this because I care enough about you to tell you. I was where you are right now. I'm telling you the shit I wish somebody told me. The second you stop trying to fight and lash out against the world, things get better one way or another. If I still thought like you did, I would still just be an angry kid lashing out at everything and not getting anywhere in life.

Nothing stops you from being successful but [b]you[/b]. That being said, I hope you find the everlasting peace that you sadly think is impossible.

@DanniRoxi: your assumptions are faulty, stop talking of which you dont know anything about

Oh I do [b]know[/b] kiddo. Now we've moved into the denial phase. Where you just try to deny all the things you've said to me and all the points I've made. You'll either try to get out of this by keep denying what you said in order to deny my points. Or you'll deny that you are denying or you might not even respond to me or you'll do something different then what I've just listed to spite me. So which is it? A,B,C or D?

Look man. I've got more life experience then you. Check your anger and hate at the door. If you had any sense you would realize that you could actually [b]learn[/b] from what i'm telling you. You could actually [b]listen[/b] to me and stop being so angry and find that peace you sadly think is impossible. Do you really think I haven't done this before? That I haven't helped angry kids like you make positive changes in their life? It all comes down to you in the end. After all you can't help people that don't want to be helped. Whether you learn from this conversation or just forget about it and go back to hating everything, depressingly thinking peace is impossible. It's up to you kid. Whatever you decide, take care of yourself.

@DanniRoxi: Yet again you do not know about my life... lol

And how old are you?

@MartinTheFirst: That depends Martin. Are you going to sit your ass down to listen and learn from what I have to say? Or are you just going to keep arguing with me and blow this opportunity to improve your well being? I would really like to know.

@DanniRoxi: You're calling someone nearly, or just as old as you kiddo, and you expect to gain respect?

@MartinTheFirst: I wasn't aware that "kiddo" made you feel insulted. If you feel insulted, I could call you something else? In all honesty. I don't necessarily want or have to have your respect. As I have enough people that love and respect me in my own life. Though it never hurts to make new friends and you seem intelligent and well minded enough to be my friend. Chances are you don't like me or are inclined not to like me because i'm challenging your beliefs. That's called cognitive dissonance. The angry that you feel when people don't mean you any harm but still challenge and dispute your beliefs? Cognitive dissonance.

What I like to do is help people that feel the same way I felt once. People like you. I know, you really don't like the idea that people think they understand you. Neither did I. But the truth is that a lot of people feel the same way you do. Angry, out of place, hating the system or society they were born into. But what you don't see is that you can in fact, still live the life you want to live. I'm living proof of that as well as many other people like me.

I think we've taken up too much room on this post. If you would really like to keep talking then feel free to message me. Or don't, it's your choice.

Sorry but I do not make friends with people who are as delusional to think their wild assumptions about someone they do not know are correct, even though one keep telling them they're incorrect.

And I do not private message with people who will not even listen to basic arguments without becoming furious, using language such as "sit your ass down" and calling them "kiddo" in order to belittle them.

I'm done here.

@MartinTheFirst: I think you're pretending to be insulted by my "offensive language" as an excuse to get out of the conversation. If you aren't pretending then your being overly sensitive. But that's fine, most people are in a lot of ways. I'm not sure when I became "furious". Was it the part before or after I tried giving you well meaning life advice and wisdom? lol You sounded pretty furious when you compared a well meaning adult life to "eating shit" and pretty sad when you called yourself a weak person. But even though I pointed it out afterwards i'm delusional?" I'm delusional for pointing out things you've said to me? It also sounds a bit delusional on your part to somehow think i'm furious when all of I've been doing is talking about my life experiences and yet you excuse yourself for saying horrible disgusting things like that.

Yeah at this point you're just projecting your problems on me. Face you're problems. Don't put them on other people. Maybe people might take your beliefs more seriously if you have a consistent thought process, instead of just running out of things to say to me then rewind and somehow try to make me a horrible person. Your delusional because you think that because you can't find happiness other people can't. Your delusional because you've convinced yourself that the system does all these horrible things when it really just seems to keep horrifically negative people like you out of the way of promising people which is fine in my book.

You know I really did empathize with you because you reminded me of a younger me. But even when I was at my lowest low, when I was at my most angry. I would have still given other people a chance. But you've denied yourself even that. I guess that's the difference between me and you. Why I am where I am now living a good happy life and why you carry this anger inside you while talking about long lasting peace being an impossibility and lashing out in hatred for any adult expectation you can't fulfill. Yeah I don't think I can help you. Still, thanks for the chat!