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honest, fact based responses only, no emotional responses- do you really think trump would overthrow democracy

Install himself as the president for life?
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Iwillwait · M
No. I think if Trump wins, he'll re-established the policies Biden undid in his 1st three days in office in 2020 and after that, it will be business as usual.
No, of course not.
calicuz · 56-60, M
I honestly do. A President only needs 2/3rds of Congress to vote in favor of an Amendment to the Constitution. That's 36 of 50 States. He won 32 states in 2016. A sitting President can push to amend the Constitution to abolish the Constitution.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@calicuz wrong even about the process.

https://classroom.synonym.com/process-constitution-specify-threefourths-majority-for-20637.html
The House of Representatives and Senate both vote on the proposed amendment; the Constitution requires that for the proposed amendment to pass, each house of Congress must pass it with a two-thirds majority.

If that happens, the amendment is then sent to state legislatures for their approval. Here again, another, even larger supermajority is required: Three-fourths of all state legislatures must vote to approve the proposed amendment before it is considered ratified and added to the Constitution.

This means that only 13 states can block a proposed amendment from being ratified.

You try to get ¾ of one state legislators to agree on anything now! Impossible! Possibly ⅔ yet never ¾!

Now do it for 38 states because with 13 it can be overridden!
calicuz · 56-60, M
@SW-User @DeWayfarer

Once again, it IS possible through prosses, however unlikely, it is still possible.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@calicuz very unlikely. 🤣

Even Clinton had to go through a round about method to get the 27th amendment, which was from the original bill of rights as article II!

The link describes the method.
Torsten · 36-40, M
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
The US has never been a democracy.
BohoBabe · M
Yes. He already tried it once before with the Fake Electors Plot. He also passed Schedule F, which would have given him dictator-level power, but thankfully he lost reelection before it could be implemented, and Biden undid it.
We know that if he becomes president again, he'll pass Schedule F again, then begin Project 2025. He also recently said that if he wins, "you won't have to vote again." This is a pattern of behavior with Trump.

Now explain, without being emotional, why we shouldn't assume Trump will try to end our democracy, considering everything we know about what he did and what he plans on doing.
joe438 · 61-69, M
BohoBabe · M
@joe438 I never even met Project 2025!
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
Yes he can overthrow this REPUBLIC! Yet not by any means talked about.

Just rig the supreme court! They can interpret the constitution any way they want to and actually they have already done so!

Now some will say they can be impeached.

That is not possible under this Republican house, and they still would have to be convicted under the Senate to be removed.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@hippyjoe1955 wrong Trump is still affecting the constitution with his paid for supreme court almost 4 years after he left office!
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SW-User
Yes, I do, he thinks himself invincible and above humanity now so I wouldn’t put anything past him nor be surprised.
justanothername · 56-60, M
Any president who will readily whip up a crowd of cult followers and encourage an insurrection on a senate that he vowed under oath to protect from all enemies foreign and domestic and who promised Christian voters that they would never nerf to vote again if Donny won the election would easily overturn the constitution in exchange for a limitless dictatorship where Donny is self nominated until he dies.
joe438 · 61-69, M
There’s no reason to think that’s his plan. It couldn’t just happen anyway.
PatKirby · M
No. That's stretching things quite a bit. Besides this is a republic, not a democracy.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
If he can, he will. And we wants to be an American Tsar, like his idol Putin.
justanothername · 56-60, M
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justanothername · 56-60, M
@fanuc2013 You seem to forget that Donny has turned the Republican heavy SCOTUS in to a feeble bunch of sycophantic pansies who are happy to delay any judgment indefinitely that rules against Donny so that he can escape Scot free of any criminal conviction charges bought against him in a court of law.
tenente · 36-40, M
i'm not a constitutional scholar but from what i've learned and read i'm fairly certain there's checks and balances in place to safe guard against a sitting president from becoming president for life. again, i'm not a scholar on this topic, but term limits, divided government branches and impeachment (and others) ensure a sitting president cannot rule for life(?)
Musicman · 61-69, M
No way! Just another lie to try stealing even one vote away from him.
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