Sovereign Citizens are basically Ancaps who pretend that their ideas have already been enacted.

@GlitterEater In my experience and reading in I'd say SCs at least have a bit more accountability and responsibility in their ethos than ancaps. There's some things I agree with in both groups but ancaps as a whole seem to want their cake and eat it too and kinda just cherry pick in their favor more than SCs. Where SCs seem a little more principled and are willing to take an L when the tables are turned. They typically seem less psychopathic and antisocial and more or less want to be left alone and much more communal minded than ancaps.


The thing that I think pisses me off the most about ancaps I think is they make these arguments in favor capitalism and against the left in scenarios that just don't exist and wouldn't exist. A lot of what they desire they act like would be impossible and forcefully not allowed by actual leftist anarchism and I find myself like " nah dude, nobody over hear or there is trying to control what you do with your labor, ability, and skills". If you and someone else wanted to go through that exchange you would be more than given a pass. But they are so convinced otherwise that they have this weird need to create these constructs of ownership and control on damn near everything and totally shoot themselves in the foot.

@MethDozer I finally understand where the driving vs traveling distinction comes from and it's dumber than I imagined. Black's Law dictionary defines "driver" as "One employed in conducting a coach, carriage, wagon, or other vehicle,with horses, mules, or other animals, or a bicycle, tricycle, or motor car, though not a street railroad car." They think "employed" here means it's your job.