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Do u believe that women are just as bad as men ? 🧑‍🦱🙎

When it comes to the basic fundamentals or principals of life.
When it comes to relationships.
When it comes to morals.
When it comes to representation of self.
People like to say women lie cheat and steal just as much as men. They just hide it more. Or some people think that women cheat just as much they just know how to get in away with it better than men do. Or women will pretend to be nice to get their way with a man or get what they want out of him first then leave. What do you think ? Are women just as bad as men when it comes down to the wire. Let's talk about it. Best answer wins. 😊

Fungirlmmm · 51-55, F
I would hate to generalize it because all things considered there are good and bad in both genders
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@ronisme1 How did you approach your friends afterwards 🤔
ronisme1 · 61-69, M
@Zonuss you mean my ex friends, we were too young, high school sweethearts, married 17 years, hurt for years, i got over it
ronisme1 · 61-69, M
@Zonuss my current spouse is a flirt and i trust her and she deserves my trust.
th3r0n · 41-45, M
Worse honestly, just sneakier
@th3r0n They also have the benefit of female privilege and pretty privilege.
ravenwind43 · 51-55, F
@UnderLockDown I've been told I am attractive and young looking for my age. It hasn't earned me any privilege whatsoever. I call bull on that:)
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@UnderLockDown Looks only go but so far sir. If a beautiful woman had that much privilege she would never be unhappy and we see that is not the case at all. 🙂
black4white · 56-60, M
First off that beauty in the picture can get away with soooo much more then many simply because most men will just be in awe of what ever so she steals the store... hahaha.... Her hubby dont care if she cheats cus she coming home to him at the end of the day... so ya know...to him its a win LOL

Overall men and women are humans and we all have issues and its pretty equal...just that men done see women doing some of the things that are done...sooo i would say 60/40 ... women do a lot but not as much.
black4white · 56-60, M
@blindbob it’s the same for women…we are human
blindbob · 41-45
@black4white you think women care about beauty as much as men do?
black4white · 56-60, M
@blindbob Ask a woman... i have no idea but i would guess they do just not the same as men....
being · 36-40, F
Yay we're equally capable of good and evil and we're equally presented with free will and choice...oh wait.. 🤔
there's been a wider suppression of the choice to do bad, for women, i believe.. and we all grown ups know huh suppression not-good..
Anyways it's too late for me now 😜
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@being A wider suppression. But aren't men harder at work and labor.☺️
being · 36-40, F
@Zonuss yes undoubtedly.. yet a bad guy can be considered to be sexy, in our arts, movies, etc.. that's rarely true for a bad woman. We've romanticised bad behaviour in men and connected it with their instincts and therefore gave more space for its expression, in comparison to the female anger that we've mostly narrated as hysterical ..
graphite · 61-69, M
We've had a culture that's spent 60 years bashing men and exalting women. For example, women file 70-80% of divorces but it's usually men who get blamed for the breakup of families. "He must've deserved it," will be the common reaction, even if he didn't do anything wrong.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@graphite So what is your conclusion 🤔
graphite · 61-69, M
@Zonuss Yes, women are just as bad men but they get the benefit of the doubt that no man would get.
Here to watch the incels at work 👀
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Ozymandiaz Femcels..incels 😊
Willa · F
I believe women are better at hiding it but I don't think the question should be who is worse but rather how they are seen. I feel like men are attacked for immoral behaviour while women who cheat or lie are being praised for it especially by feminists. That's wrong!
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Willa You feel like they are being praised and not vilified equally. Interesting 🤔
SW-User
I think a new study pointed to women cheating more. Motivations might be different but women are just as capable of bad behaviour as any man.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@SW-User Good point.
graphite · 61-69, M
One glaring example right now of advantaged women: Elizabeth Holmes was convicted of crimes way back in January and has yet to be sentenced; legal shenanigans continue to stall, stall, stall sentencing and even get her a new trial. Would a man could get away with this?
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graphite · 61-69, M
@serenecourt101 The juror said something like, "She's so young." Does a burly, tough-looking man covered with tattoos get that kind of an assessment from a juror? Probably not.
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SW-User
I wouldn't know how to compare who is worse. Women are not exempt from doing bad things and some women could be downright scary with what they are capable of.
But overall, in general with exceptions, I think the deception of women comes from a different intention to that of a mans. I think a woman's deception comes from a survival instinct and a mans from a predatory instinct.
SW-User
@Zonuss Sometimes it is not intentional to hurt someone but it is about a choice we make. I will always choose myself over anyone else. If someone gets hurt because of that, it is not intentional, it is my self preservation. To them though, I can be all sorts of horrible.
We all speak from our perspectives. Including you above. What I said about inherent instincts, it is not a personal view, it is what it is.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@SW-User That is something men do too. More than you think they do. They may not tell you. But for them it's about s
survival as well. Preserving their peace of mind and reputation. Yes. 🙂
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@SW-User Greed is carnal. And the Bible tells us clearly that the flesh is never satisfied. We are living in a different time now.
i think that it depends on the personality of the person, it doesn't matter whether man or woman. depends on their character i think.
I think people are a mixed bag regardless of how you draw the Venn diagram.

No idea where the averages are.
Jenny1234 · 51-55, F
In my experience, women might be worse than men
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Jenny1234 Explain.😊
Jenny1234 · 51-55, F
@Zonuss women are cruel toward each other, théy are very judgmental toward one another, they will not hesitate to stab each other in the back, they love to gossip about everyone and talk shit behind their “Friends” backs and turn around and be sweet to their face, they will steal your man and do not care if you are her best friend, they will lie about their friends. That’s it in a nutshell with my 53 years of experience with female friends
GJOFJ3 · 61-69, M
I think this is an area where women have achieved equality
Simply look at all the females who’ve committed crimes have been or are incarcerated or those even who were executed.
graphite · 61-69, M
@soar2newhighs I think I've seen the photo.
@graphite No longer used, the chair being an inatimate object knew of no gender who was placed on it.
@soar2newhighs In NY, it took three notables…Ruth Snyder, Charles Becker and Albert Fish.There we’re others.
Kae20 · 56-60, FVIP
With womeb Its always going to come to type and how secure or insecure the women is .
Also people rarely want to acknowledge it but it will alwYs ALWAYS come back to her principles , morals and spritual values .

If she lacks the basics or doesnt even care to know what these basics are. There will forever be the potential to cheat.

Its the exactly the same with men.

No getting around these facts .

But Tops I would say its all about insecurity, & low self esteem . If a man or woman lacks this and someome ..us nice & offers them a sweetie. They they will take it every time ( nods head)
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Kae20 But what about those who cheat because they are being neglected or abuse. And the ones who just made a bad choice. Are they really immoral 🤔
Kae20 · 56-60, FVIP
@Zonuss Yes male or female they are amoral . Cheating is not about utilising free will

( which we each as humans reserve the right to do )

Cheating is about a lack of basic respect for a partner who has invested their emotions & time into building a relationship with you.

Its just plain wrong.

To treat someone who loves and cares about you that way.

If you are being abused , neglected . Discuss how you are feeling , then still .. if nothing is salvageable or changes then . Do the next decent thing and leave.

But leave while affording your current partner Dignity and Respect.

I could have cheated on my first husband a 1000 times over because I felt neglected in the relationship, he was a work a holic and we were young.

But then even at a young age . I knew this was a man who was slogging his guts out to give me a lifestyle & financial security friends in my peer group would only dream of .

And while he had lacked balance & had gotten his priorities wrong , & I was extremely unhappy.

I knew that he still deserved respect.

So when his friends came visiting, knowing he was at work & trying it on .

When the men in other situations showed showed interest.

Without a second thought I turned them down . Even when I suspected he may not have been whiter than white.

I felt he deserved not to have his trust in me broken.

Eventually of course we separated & it was then that I entertained the thoughts of someone else.
But while we were together never did I allow such a thought to cross my mind.
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i dont know, but, women who look like this make me wanna write bad checks. 🤣
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@YourMomsSecretCrush Really. What if the loving is good. 😊
@Zonuss basically, my way of saying that she is extremely hot.
ScarletWitch · 31-35, F
It depends on the circumstances but I truly believe that men are more toxic than women are. Women could be equally as toxic but you don't see us planning war and raping others and committing crime like men do so I think men are far worse than women will ever will be.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@ScarletWitch Yes the glories of testosterone.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@ScarletWitch But there are women who go to war everyday maybe not in a bureaucratic kind of way. And how many men have been abused physically by women and have never told.
Do you know. 🙂
ScarletWitch · 31-35, F
@Zonuss I've read many disgusting articles so I wonder too. But the earth is considered MotherNature for a reason. If you let the evil to the surface, then there is no going back.
Jimmy2016 · 61-69, M
🤔..........May be a good question for Elizabeth Holmes...........
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Jimmy2016 Explain please 🙂
ArcticDave · M
Both as bad as each other if they’ve the mind to be.
SW-User
Yes I believe it's a human thing not a sex thing
Recluse · 46-50, M
Hiding it is what they do best.
Thats a tough question, theres good and bad in everyone. Even people we think you or i think might be evil have good in them. I think it would be equal but i could be wrong
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@rocknroll Ok thanks for responding.
@Zonuss i could be wrong
But your welcome
Nobody regardless of gender has a monopoly on being a good or bad person.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow True. Both genders are capable of doing many things. 🙂
No I don’t believe this at all. Not all men but I do think there is a lot more entitlement on average.
Yes. They may do things differently at times but we are all equally horrible.
Nah, no generalizations needed. We’re all screwed up.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@BrokenAbyss Give us the benefit of the doubt.🙂
Driver2 · M
I think it has nothing to do with gender .
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Driver2 Explain.
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Zonuss · 41-45, M
@serenecourt101 Explain.
uncalled4 · 56-60, M
You're talking about billions of people, so imo it's impossible to generalize. No one gender has the moral high ground.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
I think neither are bad. Individuals vary in ethics.
olderuncle944 · 70-79, M
yes i do based on life's experiences
olderuncle944 · 70-79, M
yes some times worse
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@olderuncle944 Explain.
SW-User
I think people overplay the differences between the sexes

Peterson actually touched on this in something I saw recently where he said that on aggression men and women have a lot of overlap. Like maybe if you took a man and woman and guessed the male would be more aggressive you’d be right 60% of the time

BUT if you take the most aggressive people they’re almost all men

I do feel women are very attuned towards being nurturing but how much of this is circumstance I’m not sure. Wealthy women seem to have no problems having servants.

In terms of morals generally, I suspect that there is no difference.

Socially, I think women can be nastier, more judgemental

But the soy boys are catching up
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@ronisme1 Mr Ron. 🙂
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SW-User
@Penny my impression is the stats say women cheat as often if not more
graphite · 61-69, M
@Penny Nice guys who'd make great husbands are often consigned to the "friend zone" while more cavalier player types need an appointment book to track the women interested in them. I've seen it.
JohnnySpot · 56-60, M
It's way too complicated to have even two steady girlfriends.
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Zonuss · 41-45, M
@eMortal And how do know she has done these things 🤔
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