Which is the lamest, lousiest, as well as the cheapest and most horrible, most awful, despicable and dumbest zodiac sign that shouldn't even be alive?

@Menetics Scorpio and Gemini are the worst people on this planet!

@KeepYourEyesPeeled What are your experiences with them?

@Menetics My first lover was a Scorpio and he betrayed me big time. Why do Scorpio men not give a second chance to a relationship? He just stabbed me in the back. He tried to get me to take drugs with him, but I outright refused, he was such an evil and toxic guy. I'm so glad I got rid of him in time before it got any worse.

@KeepYourEyesPeeled I’m glad you respect yourself enough to get out of there. It does sound toxic. What do you mean by him not giving it a second chance? What happened?

@Menetics He cheated on me with another girl. And he then only offered me his friendship but I wanted more, I saw us as more than just being friends and the last time I saw him, he was hign on drugs so I decided to just leave him standing here in his apartment alone and went out his door. I just couldn't take it any more, it was becoming detrimental to my own sanity, and I just accepted way too much of his own personality flaws, and shortcomings, our love and sentimental feelings just became jaded.

@KeepYourEyesPeeled I understand but it's better to just walk away from people like that. If they don't serve you any good, keep on walking. It’s not worth it staying with him if your sanity is on the line. What about Geminis? Why don’t you like them?

@Menetics Geminis can be really impartial. As a result they are often viewed as insincere and two faced. Also, because of this Geminis can delight in antagonizing people to see how they will react. It is nothing to them because they aren't so stupid as to care as deeply as the person they are prodding. That being said it isn't cool if people are ghosting you simply because of your sun sign. You can't help being a Gemini. And these are all generalizations anyways. Geminis are very adaptable which can be seen as really two faced and fake. They’re the type of people to talk shit about someone and then post an Insta story with the same person like they’re bffs the next day. They also are the type of people who can talk a lot about themselves, but have a short attention span when it comes to actually letting other speak. So sometimes when you try to talk to a Gemini about what’s going on with you, they’ll unintentionally turn it into something about them and will kind of steamroll whatever you were saying, which can come across as selfish/like they don’t care about others. Obviously this isn’t what they mean to do, but they can definitely come across that way. Gemini is one of my favorite signs and I feel like they’re so under appreciated. I feel like they are so misunderstood by others, but they try their best to understand everyone else. I feel like no other sign has ever put so much effort into trying to understand me. They’re so intellectual, and genuinely want to teach you things and learn things from you. They’re also so hilarious, probably one of the funniest signs besides Sagittarius. They can be chill to be around, but can also be the life of the party. They’re not perfect, no sign is, but I genuinely don’t understand the hate, I feel like it’s all so stereotypical. People say they’re fake when they’re not, they’re adaptable and can change their mind at times but will be honest and upfront about it. Maybe I am a little bias because Aquarius and Gemini are supposed to get along since they’re air signs, but I like them more than I like Libras. Plus conversations with them can last forever. I can’t understand why they’re so hated.
My husband is a Gemini. I don't say he has different "faces" but he's got many "hats." And it is very much a matter of what kind of reaction he is trying to get out of people. Does he want to make them happy? There's a dozen hats for that. Does he want to be helpful? Half a dozen hats. Is he trying to motivate or lead? He only has one hat for that. Many people who don't see him as often as I do think these hats are him just putting on an act. They're really all just facets of his personality that don't always come out. I tend to only wear a few hats total, and some of them do double duty. My teacher hat and mom hat, all I tend to do is change the ribbon.
According to my experience they are friendly and sweet but quickly flip the "I don't care, idgaf" switch which is not really an awful thing for me since I am very airy as well but when you want to have people around you you probably ought to give some fucks. It's like they want people to want them but don't want people to figure that out. If you aren't fascinated by them to the extent of not noticing any flaws in them the fault is in you. They are verbally smart they hide their intentions very well and when I confronted them they attacked me personally and discredited me in front of friends and tried to tarnish my reputation which is another wonderful tactic to win, but it's a short term win and not something I would do. They are quick to eliminate people and move on and make people hate them with that same speed. Lol. They can maintain long term relationships if they are want to, but when they don't put effort on you it hurts that they are actually capable of maintaining people in their life but they didn't bother to make things work with you. I had plenty of Gemini friends growing up until I realized that I prefer long term deeper friendships. Most of the Geminis I know are in good terms with everyone but no longer actually contact their old friends they just move forward creating new friends wherever they go. People misinterpret their natural enthusiasm as personal interest, you aren't special to a Gemini unless they shed a tear for you, good luck with that! It's better if you understand from the beginning where exactly you stand with a Gemini and what kind of treatment you will get if things don't work out instead of getting hurt and hating them later, it's actually something you have to do with every person in your life not just Geminis. Sorry for the unorganized essay, I am on phone and so many memories...
My own opinion is from subjective experiences. First june gemini I dated was a serial seeker of external validation and in the end was a physical abuser and cheater. Somehow I forgot he was a gemini and years later thought he was a sag. Due to this, dated another june gemini who turned out to be awful for completely different reasons. He was actually everything I ever wanted in a man, super attentive, super affectionate, was all about me in every sense. But soon I caught the ick after learning how our core values differed, and because I'm steadfast in my beliefs of human rights this put a damper on an otherwise promising relationship. The kicker came when he began to employ the one thing I asked he never do, stonewall. It's something my first gemini (a 3.5 year live-in relationship ending in physical abuse and him "moving on" within 2 weeks after I kicked him out when I caught him abusing our 4 month old puppy) employed constantly that drove me crazy, My relationship with the 2nd gemini started years after my last relationship. I took years to heal and remember who I was before I was driven to essentially mild psychosis. And he used my past trauma against me as a way to hurt me the only way he could. Even though I left both of these geminis before they could officially leave me, the way they acted afterwards was truly hurtful. And after the second, the one who was the first in my 26 years to truly wine and dine me, make me feel i was beautiful no matter what, the one who made me feel worthy of love... for them to do all they could to do the most hurtful thing they could after an amicable breakup. Yeah, I think I would rather die than deal with another June gemini. Two faced manipulative fucks.

@Menetics Why are you very cautious when it comes to Libras and Scorpios? I’m a F Scorpio and my best friend is a M Libra. He’s cheated in his relationships before but he’s been faithful in most. He actually told me he was going to go out and cheat because he found out his SO was cheating. So it was more retaliation. he’s the nice guy that everyone likes and he’s flip floppy as well, I do the dirty work in our friendship. He always tries to help his exes even the ones that did him dirty. Like his exes will text him and ask him for money and he’ll give it. I do notice that if someone stops giving him attention he does the same. I personally tell him he needs to initiate at least some of his conversations and show interest first too. I think personally you probably need to be consistent and show interest in order to get that reciprocated. I don’t understand his logic but that’s what I see he does. Also whenever he is in a relationship and his SO surprises him he really likes it, so maybe try a surprise to liven things up?
Scorpio Sun/Mercury here. My best friend of about 8 years now, is a Libra, and we generally get along pretty well for the most part. We think alike in many ways, both in regards to how we go/feel about things in life, and oftentimes our connection involves many psychic type experiences with each other to where at this point, we have finally just accepted that we really have this type of relationship as opposed to it always being mere coincidence),she is just genuinely, my favorite person. However, I am also a Libra Rising, Moon, and Venus, and upon learning this, my best friend and I have come to assume that the reason we often understand each other so much may be because I have so many of my houses in Libra. Either way, overall we tend to be great. The times that we aren’t, it isn’t long before we are again. First decan Scorpio guy been with a first decan Libra women for 8 years and married for the last two. We both have Mars in Gemini too though. Relationship is fun, communication very good, she’s not into music as much as me but that’s ok, she is very good at maths which comes in handy. No drama really, not so much passion either compared to previous relationships with cancer and other water signs but I can accept that for the other benefit of a more stable longer lasting relationship. She is logical too which comes into handy sometimes, as a Scorpio we like to go with our senses where as a Libra thinks things out, sometimes she is right sometimes I am, we’ve balance well, and my senses have now improved a lot to where I know if I should stick with my Scorpio gut or switch to her idea. They also have a cool head don’t hold grudges and like to restore peace and harmony ASAP so arguments never get too serious. If I want my alone space I just say so and she respects it and goes on the phone to talk to her friends or something instead.
I'm (scorpio F) currently in a relationship for nearly 4 years with a libra M, who's just a year older than me. It really took some time for us to be able to understand each other, our communication is really not the best. But other than that, he's my best friend and I can hardly ever let him go. He's very sweet and loving, even though he used to have anger outbursts (nowadays he almost never has those). Besides that I know that he'll never cheat. I'm a really, REALLY distrustful person, but I know that I can trust him.
Trust your gut. If he's already not giving you the kind of love and attention to make you happy (not to mention there are other red flags you pointed out), then that's probably not going to change. It doesn't really matter what his feelings for you are if he doesn't have a compatible way of expressing them. Scorpio types have a tendency to transform ourselves into what we think our partner wants. So you have to be extra careful when choosing who is deserving of that, because otherwise you'll end up unhappy and it can take a long time to get your identity back.
I couldn't explain the dynamic to you but as a libra sun Scorpio rising and Scorpio Venus/Mars, this is interesting. I agree with you to an extent - I can get on well with scorpios, I've had close friends who are Scorpio, however these friendships are short lived and fizzle out. I don't agree personally that I, as a libra, fit into the bit where you say libras aren't emotional, but I can see why you'd say that about libras - I guess I don't fit that description due to my cancer moon. I have clashed with scorpios on a few occasions. I find that they (scorpios) are low key intrusive or nosy, or that we push each other's buttons somehow and get annoyed with each other. But other than that I get on well with them - just not well enough for me to have ever had a long term friendship with one.
My mom and dad are Libra and Scorpio suns. To be honest, what matters is your entire chart. They have been together for a very long time and while they do have their arguments, they have been happily married for that entire time. They have many harmonizing aspects, like his Venus conj her sun, both have Venus in Libra, his sun is conj her DC in the 7th. It really comes down to the whole picture. They also both have their moons in air signs and share a sense of intellect and drive to succeed.
My best friend since I was 7 years old is a Scorpio and I am a Libra on the Scorpio cusp. Libras tend to be laid back and are eager to please. Scorpios are a bit more controlling from my experience and like to make decisions. When she would make plans, I would go along with it and rarely argue about anything. As we got older,(now both 28) I began to grow into my own person and we would bump heads a lot because I was no longer always trying to be so complacent. For example, with other relationships or what I wanted to do on my leisure. We are still close, but I also take her in small doses. Everyone is going to be different, the key is how to receive that person. Explain to your friend that you need a little more understanding and less emotion. I also found that my best friend took everything to the heart when I felt it did not merit that kind of attention. Scorpios are very strong when it comes to their emotions and us Libras can barely commit to anything! So that becomes frustrating for them. Definitely create boundaries with your friend. Maybe there are some things you can just agree to disagree about. Also, if there comes a time when you feel a conversation is getting heated, nip it in the butt right there and explain that you are feeling uncomfortable and would like to talk about something else. Communication is key for sure.
My dad's Libra and my moms Scorpio. They are both really mature and committed and they've already lived their lives together for 30+ years. The eggshell problem exists with them too. It's a bit sad because I think they are both hurt that they cannot fully connect but to stubborn to confront it.

@Menetics How do you feel about Scorpios or people with Scorpio placements? Depends very much on what stage you meet them at, Scorpios are the one sign that has a lot of deaths & rebirths, ofc spiritually, mentally & emotionally, if you meet a relatively young one, they’re usually just beginning to be introduced to the energy & can be very chaotic, abusive, forceful, manipulative & etc. Then there’s the somewhere in the middle types, who have made it past the exploring the raw energy stage (pretty much the “f*ck & chuck” stage where they get what they want from you & ghost), they seem to have worked through the more intense desires & are more grounded, then there’s the “Phoenix rising from the ashes” ones who have really captured the essence of the Scorpionic energy & are actually quite lovely people, very non judgemental, understanding, insightful & super helpful. It really just depends again. Also, depending on how the sign Scorpio is in your own chart, Pluto aspects to your own planets, how your own Mars is placed & your own perception of the energy, you can hate them or love them. If you yourself have planets in a challenging relationship with Scorpio in your own chart, you won’t like them very much. Scorpio is the most karmically charged sign, it’s also a sign that really is able to show you your own darkness & sides of you that you hide or are not even aware of, if someone isn’t ready to face that, coming across a Scorpio can be incredibly uncomfortable or in other ways painful. They tend to bring out different sides in others, they have a way of invoking strong responses from others, either good or bad. Also there’s different kinds, people who have planets in Scorpio vs people who have planets in the 8th vs people who have strong Plutonian aspects are all Scorpios in some way but all show different shades. Everyone is a “Scorpio” in some area of their life. Everyone has Scorpio ruling a certain house in their own chart & a Mars & Pluto.
Scorpio Sun kind of 50/50 for me. Met a lot of them in my youth and got along with them not too bad. I've been burned by a few Scorpios over the years though. Never fully trust them is the main thing. They can turn on you at any moment because they suffer from major trust issues. Even Scorpios you have known for years are not "safe" in terms of loyal friendship. When fear or doubt creeps into a Scorpio's mind it can take them over. They succumb to doubt and peer pressure all the time and as a result they will evenually betray you when they simply "feel" like you are the "bad guy" whether it's true or not. So just again it's never entrust your back to a Scorpio because they can stab it for no reason other than their own "intuition" aka misguided fear. I've found in all of the Scorpios I've known in my life they often trust people who should never be trusted and somehow they want to wipe out a person who is benign simply based on their gut feelings. That's why they themselves get burned so often yet Scorpio anything in general is terrified of betrayal. Scorpio Moon though in my experience is a solid placement that has never done me wrong. I don't have too much experience with the Venus or the Mars.
I’ve had mostly good experiences. I beat up one Scorpio but to be fair I didn’t even know his sun again until I was told it offhand by someone. But otherwise they are are fine. I think people tend to overhype them tho and they aren’t as mysterious as they think they are. They are intense but they have issues internalizing everything and it makes me wonder if some of them just like pain too much. That might be something they haven’t transformed away from yet but the transformed ones are pretty dope. Scorpio men I find boring tho but they are are pleasant to be around platonically. The Scorpio women are loyal tho one of my best friends is a Scorpio so overall chill people in my experience
For Gemini asc, scorpio being the 6th house, they will find it insulting and difficult letting go of or will bear a life long grudge towards anyone who wins an argument over them or even a competitive game against them. 6th house being competitions and all. For cancer ascendants, they will never forgive anyone who says anything about their children or criticise or put down their creative process/ endeavours. For Taurus, they’ll never let go of anything that said about their business partnerships, significant other or spouse. For Virgo their self efforts and writing or communicative abilities, they’ll probably tear you a new one if you say anything about it. For libra, it’s their family. For Pisces, their father, teachers, world view and sense of spirituality. Test it out on a couple of charts and see for yourself if it holds true. Looking at the mars rules signs - If Aries is initiation, then scorpio is a sign of death and ending a cycle where you’re letting go of things that don’t work out for you. If you think about in scientific terms of cell cycles, Both are necessary for a healthy regulation in maintaining homeostasis and equilibrium. Also like someone already mentioned here before there be different types of scorpio (like for any sign I suppose) but the more mature are the better understanding ones of their own intense energy they posses and aware of their ability to transmute these energies into more positive and productive forms.
1.Dated a scorpio sun before. Initially, it was nice but things got too heavy for me. We constantly bicker till it came to a point where we didn't trust each other anymore. There was no point in saving our relationship but the scorpio person still insists. Generally, it was just too intense. 2. My bestfriend on the other hand has a scorpio rising and gemini sun. Really the best. Knows me well and very supportive. Passionate individuals. Can be a bit judgmental but it's all for fun. Seem aloof at first, but not really the case. 3. Another friend of mine has virgo sun and scorpio moon. Very secretive and conserved. Has a lot of eccentric and/or good ideas but doesn't share them to people they're not comfortable with. They might not show a lot of emotion but if they genuinely like you they express it by giving little "gifts" (e.g., free food). 4. A person I know has libra sun and mercury scorpio. Very polite. They know how to make you feel good but there's always doubt on whether they really mean it or they have other agendas in mind. Nonetheless, they're attentive. 5. My dad has leo sun and scorpio mars. Very generous, warm hearted individuals. Likes to show off what he knows. Supportive in pursuits that make him stand out (e.g., me winning a competition). Passionate in achieving their goals whether small or big. They really feel deeply and are very vocal with it. Trying to cross them by hurting their pride is a bad idea. Provokes. Wants to make you feel little. In the end, regrets it. I am still wary of people with scorpio suns but it depends on what their other placements are. The one I dated has a water moon (could be the reason why the intensity is amped up). For the other placements, I get along with them well but don't try to cross any boundaries. Though, I can't imagine myself being around someone scorpio dominated. I feel like they have a tendency to keep grudges (even in the minuscule things) without me knowing, make me feel stupid or judge the way I handle things because they feel their way's the best (based on first impressions and observations). My chart consists of air and fire energy. It cramps up my style. I don't want to be around people like that. If you don't like how I'm rolling, suggest something without judgment or if you simply don't like me, say it then leave. I love Scorpio men. Every Scorpio man I've met has always been so tender, sweet, gentle, and there's this feeling around them as if there's a watchful beast just below the surface and it comes out when you fuck with them or their loved ones. One of my buddy's is a Scorpio and he's so funny and I've never felt the need to hide myself from him and if I did, he'd call me out on it right away.
I've never met a Scorpio man I didn't adore. The evolved Scorpio men are so tender, gentle, sweet, and protective it's just comforting to be around them. It's always been the mean looking, aloof Scorpio men that have my back and make sure I'm doing ok at my jobs. The Scorpio women are fun to talk to about our hoe phases and talk shit with 😏

@KeepYourEyesPeeled My family consists of Libras. I don’t like it when they act that they care but really they don’t. You would think that they’re an open book but those people don’t even know they’re being talked to behind their backs. Also, I never met a libra person who acknowledged their wrong doings. It’s always the other person’s fault. I get along with Aries and Cancers more.

@Menetics Me too, I get on wonderfully and amazingly with Aries and Cancer, they're my favorite kind of people. I'm a Virgo/Cancer with Cancer Venus, Cap Rising. My Mom is an Aries/Leo/Scorpio and Dad is Aries/Scorpio/? sister is Aries/Scorpio/? I had a very rough upbringing with them. Not to say it was toxic or too abusive but it was rough, roaring-loud yelling, narcissistic, like hide in my closet rough. I'm now besties with an Aries guy that has Libra Moon and Cap rising like me and Pisces Venus. We get along swimmingly (Pisces Venus?) and he's very gentle, nothing like my parents. I think he's a 3rd Decan Aries as well. I was hesitant at first he grew on me.
I'm a cancer and absolutely adore Aries. I think the cardinal part of me is what connects me to them, the take charge mentality. If there's anything that I could highlight as a negative, it might be that they can drain me a bit, they have never ending energy. But I'm referring to parent child, or friendship relationships. I can definitely see how it could have problems in a romantic relationship
How funny. I’m a cancer with an Aries husband (though he’s much more like his scorpio Moon), and I picked a lot of Aries for friends growing up. Super tough dynamic. I noticed my descendant was Aries meaning that’s why I’m drawn to them. Just a lot of differences more so than similarities. Aries is out in the open and fairly direct with communication it's like this is how it is and that is what's up. Nothing is off limits and they tell it like it is. They like to push boundaries and test limits. They don't back down easily from opposition and they like challenges. Aries doesn't shy away from confrontation either.
Cancer is the exact opposite they are guarded and have a shell which acts as a personal wall. Their communication style is much more indirect. They are very sensitive and they can go silent and expect you to just feel whatever's on their mind. Boundaries are very important to a Cancer as well and they will withdraw if you rub them the wrong way or confront them. The only thing I can think of that Aries and Cancer have in common is they can both be extremely stubborn although in pretty different ways. Aries is more "do it fast or do it my way" kind of stubborn while Cancer is more "follow routine and it's gotta be familiar" kind of stubborn. Cancer can be just as talkative as an Aries is also when they're comfortable.
Aries don't build up their emotions and Cancers have an intuition to follow their feelings and are passive aggressive. Aries always talk about getting stuff done and being productive. Cancers just want to be loved. They are two hugely different signs but the two most emotional in the chart. Aries will do whatever it takes to succeed if they want it so bad. Of course these are just my experiences so these might not even be accurate.
I think they are more similar than it would seem. Both are subjective (view the world based on their values and personal connection), can be emotionally impulsive, and have cardinal tendencies of leading/managing. Angry Aries is more likely to be confrontational, while angry Cancer is more likely to internalize.
I’m an Aries Sun with a Cancer rising. I feel like I come off really shy, sweet, soft-spoken when I meet people but then when they get to know me they realize there is a lot of chaotic energy there that they weren’t expecting!
Aries don't build up their emotions and Cancers have an intuition to follow their feelings and are passive aggressive. Aries always talk about getting stuff done and being productive. Cancers just want to be loved. They are two hugely different signs but the two most emotional in the chart. Aries will do whatever it takes to succeed if they want it so bad. Of course these are just my experiences so these might not even be accurate.

@KeepYourEyesPeeled This is actually informative. Thank you!