Population control WILL happen; it is inevitable, because either we will do it or mother nature will do it.

Covid? That's Mother Nature's population control and this is just a small taste of how bad it could get.

I promise you controlling our own population would be a much more pleasant option for everyone.

We have observed this time and time again in lab settings with many other species; when population density in a given ecosystem gets too high, plagues happen, famine happens, infant mortality happens, hyperaggression happens.

Like it or not it's gonna happen, it's just a question of do you want it rough or gentle.

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reflectingmonkey · 51-55, M

it worked for China, they had a strict control on how many children are allowed per family and they have managed to slow down dramatically the rise of their population. its possible that at some point in the future a man-maid virus will be necessary but no, unlike what silly conspirationist, covid was not a man-made virus meant to reduce global population, or, if it was, it was a major faillure since it kills only a small percentage of its hosts. A virus that makes people infertile might be more useful but they need to make sure a percentage of people are vaccinated so that some stay fertile. before all that, controling the rate of births would be easier.

Eternity · 26-30, M

@reflectingmonkey I say just buy people's fertilities. That's fair and would definitely be very effective.

10 grand to not have kids? Shiiit. Sign me up.

BlueVeins · 22-25

@Eternity ehhhhhhhh we could probably get a much better result from dedicating the same amt of money to family planning & sex ed in the developing world, and to far more humane and morally unambiguous results. would freak the cuckservatives out a lot less, which shouldn't be a factor but unfortunately is.

Wealthier countries have waaaaay fewer babies than poor ones, so beyond that, let's lay into development projects in general.

Eternity · 26-30, M

@BlueVeins people are dumb man,and the public education system is what made them that way.

Buying fertility off people with weak genes is such a simpler solution and, though more expensive in the short term, will ultimately save far more in the future on healthcare and aide for people with debilitating illnesses of body and/or mind.

BlueVeins · 22-25

@Eternity Not necessarily. First of all, most of the people who sell their fertility away are probably gonna be people who didn't want to have kids anyway. I mean, raising a kid costs half a million dollars minimum last I checked here in the developed world. Ultimately, the desire to reproduce isn't [i]super[/i] price-sensitive. So realistically, you'd be paying several score thousand -- if not over a hundred thousand -- per baby prevented.

And the ethics of doing this are kinda questionable. I mean in principle, it [i]shouldn't[/i] be wrong because all we're technically doing is giving people another opportunity on how to make money and nobody's legally obligated to take it. But it gets to the same problem as warfare where, when the government extends social mobility in exchange for some extreme sacrifice, it starts to become a replacement for welfare and defer the more serious action that we need.

Don't think that's a big problem? Fine, but it doesn't even come close to comparing to the downright angellic nature of foreign aid to developing countries and lifting people out of poverty. It's true that it's more complicated, but there's also way, way more statistical evidence behind that strategy and the poll of people we could reach is much, much larger.