New mask mandates in the Bay Area

@soar2newhighs I am going to assume you don't have a "Nazi tactic" in mind about needing to provide proof of vaccine for "in door dining." When you use an analogy like that please keep in mind how fucking wrong you are. When there is a "Nazi tactic" I promise you, I'll let you know.

@soar2newhighs [quote] You know if these vaccines were so effective, why are some who’ve been vaccinated getting covid again? [/quote]
In my city we’ve had 1800 covid hospitalizations since December. Six were vaccinated. So yeah, they’re effective.

@QuixoticSoul Something else that doesn't get enough coverage is part of the reason the overall lower effectiveness rating of the J & J vaccine is because the study was done in areas with Delta variant outbreaks too. The earlier vaccines did their trials before that variant even showed up in the population in the US.

@InHeaven Brainwashing?

@Jenny1234 Fully vaccinated people CAN spread COVID, although getting sick with is is not common. And even among those who do get sick with COVID despite vaccination, it's always very mild. About 160,000,000 Americans have been vaccinated as of a couple weeks ago, and of those people, only 4,500 have experienced severe symptoms of COVID. Less than 800 of them have died, and over 75% of the people who did die were over the age of 80.

That said, you can still carry COVID even if you're vaccinated, and masks do a good job of preventing an infected person from spreading it.

@whowasthatmaskedman Not my choice of vacation destination.

@cherokeepatti Its been a decade since I was last there. Then the biggest culture shock for me was the idea of people begging on every street corner.😷

@whowasthatmaskedman Took a trip to California 3 summers ago and went on a long road trip, visited a lot of pretty places but not the Bay Area.

Just because some have brought it with them while illegally crossing the border does not mean that more and more and more should continue to do the same. If they were crossing directly into Canada after bypassing thr US by air or sea that would would be fine with me. How about with you? @whowasthatmaskedman

@jackjjackson We can debate this on two fronts. First being what is right and proper in principle. The second being what actually happens in the real world.
Now you can have all the principles you want. But a Virus doesnt obey principles. Its mission in life it to spread, no questions asked. It doesnt care.
So you have to deal with it on its terms. I admit to having the luxury of not being in a country that has no land borders and thats probably saved us. But equally whenoutbreaks have happened between states, the state border has been closed and testing , travel permits and quarantine measures have been inforced. Right now , if I leave my state, I cant return without 14 days quarantine. And we are fully vaccinated.
In the end, vaccination has to be the key. Anyone who chooses not to is playing Russian Roulette. And people who do that willingly are insane.😷

Nothing to debate regarding the sensibility and duty to one’s fellow humans of vaccinations. Nice to see you’re on the right side of history. @whowasthatmaskedman

@pianoplayingsteve They could have given them human names like they do hurricanes.

@cherokeepatti Maybe not. My wife gets offended enough when a Hurricane gets named after her. She would go @pe$h*t if it was a Virus..😷