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Nuclear Disarmament

Eliminate nuclear weapons.......yes or no?
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MethDozer · M
No.

It's a great idea in theory, but impossible and short sighted in practice. It would never happen and even if it did then you're just waiting for he next person or nation to make a one and when they do have no reason not to use it.

It's one of those sad truths that they are here and aren't going anywhere.
gol979 · 41-45, M
@MethDozer so you agree with the sentiment but don't think it's actionable?
MethDozer · M
@gol979 It's a good natured pipedream. The road to hell paved with good intentions.
gol979 · 41-45, M
@MethDozer I'm not sure how you get on the road to help by denuclearisation. That's very orwellian
MethDozer · M
@gol979 Hell not help.

We live in very Orwellian times. It's worse than he predicted or wrote about.

The thing about denuclearisation is the same ignorance of the concept of "international law". It cannot be done without a strong and heavy worldwide authoritarian regime. Even still then if you get rid of every single one then you are just waitiung for the first person to make another one. Then once they do, they have the only one and therefor no reason not use it and have all the power.

Fact of the matter is nuclear deterance has worked and really if you look at history they have prevented more war than they have started. I don't like them, but there is no getting rid of them. Technology is always a pandoras box.
gol979 · 41-45, M
@MethDozer so take nuclear weapons away and we will end up with heavy worldwide authoritarian regiemes? To be honest, we are going that way even with the A bombs. Or we have the potential.

I don't agree with your assertions. You are basing human nature at its most barbaric. There's is a different way to be. Anthropology evidences this......we aren't self serving beasts, that is just another bullshit narrative.

And I meant Orwellian like......war is peace etc
MethDozer · M
@gol979 The only time nuclear weapons have been used is when one nation had them.

I'm basing human nature on the nature of life. All life, All lving things seek advantage. as history and anthropology has repeatedly demonstrated.

You are also spin doctoring my words. I never said it would result in an worldwide authoritarian regime. I said for them to not exist anywhere would take one. You can never put technology or weapons back in the box. You would have to erase all knowledge of them.

We are self-serving. As is all.
Platoscave · F
@MethDozer If you look at history the way Chomsky has done you will see how many narrow escapes prevented a nuke from going up SO FAR.