Is the US struggling for tourists? The visit USA ad seems to be in TV every five minutes…
I’m not going - I’m too pregnant and looking forward to quiet Autumn at home. 🙂
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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
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LeopoldBloom · M
@SumKindaMunster More like the media has made the US look like a violent, crime-ridden hellhole straight out of Mad Max, where tourists are risking death at the hands of roving gangs if they dare to visit Disneyland.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@LeopoldBloom Really? What kind of media are you watching? Are you sure you weren't watching a found footage zombie movie or something?
LeopoldBloom · M
@SumKindaMunster The mainstream media in general plays up crime because "if it bleeds, it leads." Your average person our age would say that crime is worse now than when we were growing up, when the opposite is true. The difference is that crime is reported on more now.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@LeopoldBloom You sure about that? You familiar with this?
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2023/07/13/fbi-crime-rates-data-gap-nibrs
So multiple cities and locations are NOT reporting their crime stats to the FBI right now and that is altering the data. Anyone who says crime dropped from 2020 to now is speaking from incomplete data.
That will likely change in a few years..but right now? I wouldn't take any stats on crime as gospel until the new system is fully implemented.
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2023/07/13/fbi-crime-rates-data-gap-nibrs
By 2020, almost every law enforcement agency was included in the FBI’s database. Some agencies reported topline numbers, such as the total number of murders or car thefts, through the Summary Reporting System. Others reported granular incident data with details about each reported crime through the newer National Incident-Based Reporting System (NIBRS).
Then it all changed in 2021. In an effort to fully modernize the system, the FBI stopped taking data from the old summary system and only accepted data through the new system. Thousands of police agencies fell through the cracks because they didn’t catch up with the changes on time.
The Marshall Project is tracking police agency participation using data obtained from the FBI. Here are four takeaways from our analysis.
Participation in the FBI's database improved slightly, with about two-thirds of law enforcement agencies now included.
More than 6,000 law enforcement agencies were missing from the FBI’s national crime data last year, representing nearly one-third of the nation’s 18,000 police agencies. This means a quarter of the U.S. population wasn't represented in the federal crime data last year, according to The Marshall Project’s analysis.
Then it all changed in 2021. In an effort to fully modernize the system, the FBI stopped taking data from the old summary system and only accepted data through the new system. Thousands of police agencies fell through the cracks because they didn’t catch up with the changes on time.
The Marshall Project is tracking police agency participation using data obtained from the FBI. Here are four takeaways from our analysis.
Participation in the FBI's database improved slightly, with about two-thirds of law enforcement agencies now included.
More than 6,000 law enforcement agencies were missing from the FBI’s national crime data last year, representing nearly one-third of the nation’s 18,000 police agencies. This means a quarter of the U.S. population wasn't represented in the federal crime data last year, according to The Marshall Project’s analysis.
So multiple cities and locations are NOT reporting their crime stats to the FBI right now and that is altering the data. Anyone who says crime dropped from 2020 to now is speaking from incomplete data.
That will likely change in a few years..but right now? I wouldn't take any stats on crime as gospel until the new system is fully implemented.
LeopoldBloom · M
@SumKindaMunster I'm not talking about the drop from 2020 to 2021. I'm talking about the drop from 1990 to 2020. There was a brief spike in murders after the COVID lockdowns ended, but that has ended by now with levels returning to where they were before.
The old FBI database was problematic as it relied on voluntarily-reported statistics from local police departments, with no vetting or verification. I don't know enough about the new system to comment on it, but the old one was definitely inaccurate with a potential for racial bias. However, the drop in violent crime over the past several decades is real regardless of any reporting inaccuracies.
The old FBI database was problematic as it relied on voluntarily-reported statistics from local police departments, with no vetting or verification. I don't know enough about the new system to comment on it, but the old one was definitely inaccurate with a potential for racial bias. However, the drop in violent crime over the past several decades is real regardless of any reporting inaccuracies.
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