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In my opinion, it's a rather condescending term to describe victims of globalist indoctrination, conditioning, broken homes, poor parenting, and an imposed sense of entitlement posited by generations of people who actually organize think tanks to come up with new and unique reasons to be offended by just about everything. These are the people who come up with such wonderful ideas as re-naming pedophiles, "Minor attracted Persons" so as not to stigmatize or offend them, or allowing unstable males access to girls restrooms, etc. Basically, the same people who spit on soldiers returning from Vietnam, became the establishment, and started creating clones of themselves through new age nonsense and revisionist education. Kids need hard work, moral guidance, and wholesome discipline, and that is becoming more and more rare as each day passes. However the insanity of their bizarre way of thinking has produced a global backlash. People are beginning to see the bitter fruit of the sold out hippie mentality, and they are shifting right. More so in the western hemisphere.
HoraceGreenley · 61-69, M
I agree. The condescension is purposeful.
quinnVneck · 31-35, F
"they are shifting right" what do you mean? they going right-wing?
HoraceGreenley · 61-69, M
@nurseVneck: Yes. Moving to right of center
quinnVneck · 31-35, F
so those wanting freedom of speech and no more silencing of words...isn't that what the right is all about?
@nurseVneck: There is a political shift in Europe and the US towards more conservative thought. Unfortunately, there will be some overkill, especially because of the influx of people whose cultures condones things that Europeans should have never tolerated to begin with. If 23% of the worlds population mistreats the other 77% for a long enough period of time, eventually people are going to balk and resist. If you play back non revisionist history from 632 till now, you will see that there is a pattern that is bound to produce eventual resistance.
@nurseVneck: Well, "the right" is as ideological diverse as "the left". Basically, the right is conservative and predominantly individualist, whereas the left is liberal and predominantly collective. In their true form, they are both positive influences and symbiotic with each other in a democracy, as they encourage a system of checks and balances, so neither one goes to extremes and the best ideas from both sides come to fruition.
quinnVneck · 31-35, F
@puck61: and they teach in sociology that eastern is collective and western is individualistic but i see it as what you said...the left = collective, the right = individualistic
Well, just like all Muslims aren't terrorists, all conservatives aren't right wing fascist creeps, and all liberals aren't pantywaist cupcakes. I know I'm not telling you anything you didn't already know though.
quinnVneck · 31-35, F
well its still good to have some fresh learning and review
quinnVneck · 31-35, F
what i believe is that the left aims for equality and the dumbing down of others as well as promoting crab-mentality just to have everyone in the equal level while the right says "sticks and stones may break our bones but words may never hurt us" meaning that not giving a fuck is still the power of individuality with high self-esteem
HoraceGreenley · 61-69, M
@nurseVneck: In general I agree with you Nurse. The Left favors collectivism while the Right favors individualism. So the Left leans to Socialism/Communism and the Right leans to Capitalism.
quinnVneck · 31-35, F
i'm supportive of the right to be honest because i stand for individuality
HoraceGreenley · 61-69, M
@nurseVneck: Furthermore, this opposition is often referred to the Left favoring "Big Government" and the Right favoring "Small Government" and one issue is restricted vs. free speech as you mentioned.
The issue is, to whom do you invest power? Do you favor government having more or less control over the lives of people? Big Government advocates invest more power in government to influence the conduct of individuals and private business. Small Government advocates want to invest power in individuals and private business.
I prefer Small Government. If government has power, there's no effective remedy for private individuals and businesses to resist being harmed. At if one is harmed by another person or business, you have the courts for redress. It is virtually impossible for an individual to sue a government, for instance.
Governments rule by the force of law. No one volunteers to pay their taxes. I prefer my own decision making and free markets to decide what happens to me.
The issue is, to whom do you invest power? Do you favor government having more or less control over the lives of people? Big Government advocates invest more power in government to influence the conduct of individuals and private business. Small Government advocates want to invest power in individuals and private business.
I prefer Small Government. If government has power, there's no effective remedy for private individuals and businesses to resist being harmed. At if one is harmed by another person or business, you have the courts for redress. It is virtually impossible for an individual to sue a government, for instance.
Governments rule by the force of law. No one volunteers to pay their taxes. I prefer my own decision making and free markets to decide what happens to me.
HoraceGreenley · 61-69, M
@nurseVneck: Agreed, and I don't want government to have so much influence over my life.
quinnVneck · 31-35, F
i also prefer capitalism because we get what we work for... i hate confiscation and using other people's property as a sharing to others...
quinnVneck · 31-35, F
HoraceGreenley...remember only Individuals' biggest threat is BIG BRother of 1984...
anything that repressents a totalitarian government is the enemy of individuality
anything that repressents a totalitarian government is the enemy of individuality
HoraceGreenley · 61-69, M
@nurseVneck: True. A more immediate threat is the "crab-mentality" you mentioned. That's what scares the Hell out of me.
Winston Churchill had some gems along these lines! When I get angry at the alt left, I always think. "The left is Neville Chamberlain, and the right is Winston Churchill." but that's just emotionally induced hyperbole.
quinnVneck · 31-35, F
those who pull down people...are also doomed to be pulled down
look at the communists...they can't seem to reach a higher amount of pay since everyone is "equal"
but lets look at some of the school setting...cliques are doomed to be at the bottom of an individual in the future... "cool kids" as well are doom to fail in later life [according to a recent study]
look at the communists...they can't seem to reach a higher amount of pay since everyone is "equal"
but lets look at some of the school setting...cliques are doomed to be at the bottom of an individual in the future... "cool kids" as well are doom to fail in later life [according to a recent study]
HoraceGreenley · 61-69, M
@nurseVneck: I'll buy the school clique study.
As for communism, it violates human nature. If the state owns everything, people have no incentive to work hard, innovate or produce. One example is the Tragedy of the Commons:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons
Communists never figured out that you can't plan for change.
As for communism, it violates human nature. If the state owns everything, people have no incentive to work hard, innovate or produce. One example is the Tragedy of the Commons:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons
Communists never figured out that you can't plan for change.