why do young women do this today

@Nightwings hmmm. I know this is a widespread attitude but I don't understand it. Why should I feel less attracted to the beauty of young people as I get older? Beauty remains beauty. If someone dresses in a revealing sexy way they ought to know, realistically, that anybody might be looking at them and feel aroused. Not only people they themselves would be aroused by.

@ThePatientAnarchist You can consider a person's beauty without being creepy by feeling sexually attracted to them. My stepfather once told me that I was very beautiful one night when I was going out, when I was 17. It really touched me, that's why I remember it. Think how gross that memory would instead be, if he had felt attracted to me. 🤮 🤮

A man with a normally functioning brain would never think like you, you are being grotesque.

All beautifil girls have memories of such grotesque mentally ill men, who couldn't help to reveal their perversity the first time they saw us grown up – the first time they saw us after we developed breasts, small but still there, and when the unkle hugged us, he hugged us too long, and that's when we discoverrd too young, how many mentally ill men are in this world.

To young women, you are not "people", you are: One Of Those.

My best friend and I made up a word for the likes of you, when we were teenagers. It was Danish, but it basically meant "non-human."

The creepiest thing about your kind is perhaps the lack of self-respect. You walk around and daydream about girls who don't even consider you real people. You are actually so out of touch with the real world, that you don't even realize that you are just monsters to the girls you want to have sex with. You choose not to realize it, because you are that pathetic. I don't understand how a person can be that pathethic. I was naive enough to respect a drug addict on the street, but never a "non-human" like you.

@Nightwings wow, you are extrapolating a lot on the basis of very little! Think about it . Look at the couple of sentences I actually wrote here and what they actually say, compared to the paragraphs of anger at *other* men that you are loading onto me.

I am going to just respond to one thing, though. Do you actually have such control over your physical sensations and emotions that you can decide who to be sexually attracted to, and who not? I certainly do not have that level of internal censorship and I do not think I would want to. *Saying* or *doing* something about it, like the creepy men you mention, is a different story. There, I do have choice, and I do not impose my desires on people the way you describe.

@ThePatientAnarchist


I get that. Maybe that's you, maybe you think it's not, but it is, or maybe it's not you.


Well yeah! I am into other girls, but I have never felt sexually attracted to girls who had to undress with me for gym class or the swimming pool, because that would be effing creepy and weird. Imagine being there in your own head, while everyone else think it's normal. That's so creepy. I am attracted to a girl or guy when we are on a romantic date when such feelings can be expected obviously.

A normal man do not find it difficult to separate attraction from beauty, nor would he ever feel like it's appropriate to feel sexual attraction towards a girl who's sentences he can't even freaking understand, because they're from a new era, and he's a freaking fossil.

If you cannot control your feelings, and you do not have those boundaries in your head, that is what makes me say it's a mental illness. No normal accomplished man has issues with any such things, he respects himself and would never look at women twice his age that way, because that's gross to that woman, and he understands that.

@Nightwings Thank you for continuing the dialogue.


That sounds similar to what people have recently (in terms of my lifespan!) started calling demisexual. Where there needs to be an emotional connection in order for there to be a sexual attraction.

The fact that there's a word for that, and some people see it as their sexual identity, tells me that it is not a description of everybody, or of the "normal" person. It is part of the range of human sexuality.

You've brought up a number of examples where sexual actions would be inappropriate and therefore you wouldn't experience sexual feelings. If I'm understanding you correctly, you believe that is a normal way for sexual attraction to work. That feeling an attraction where sexual action would be inappropriate, is perverted and mentally ill.

I don't think that is an accurate assessment of what is normal or what is sick. I know from my own experience, but also from many other people's descriptions of their experiences, that many people are used to feeling desire even when they're perfectly aware that doing anything about it would be wrong. For example, many people talk about having a crush on their teacher, whether in high school or university, even though they know very well that teachers are not allowed to date students.

I think that both your very disciplined desires and my rather anarchic ones are normal and within the healthy spectrum of human sexuality. On this I guess we disagree. On the other hand, I agree with you that leering, suggestive remarks, or excessively long hugs in the kinds of situations you've described are ugly and to be avoided. So we have some common ground too.

@ThePatientAnarchist You do not understand what demisexual means at all, because taking real life into consideration is the norm, not a demisexual thing. Demisexual, many people fail to realize, actually means that you are ONLY attracted via personal connections, which could be strong feelings of happiness, shame etc.

There is nothing demisexual about considering the view point of who you find sexually attractive, that is literally normal. Don't start calling normal dating something special just because you're a creep ffs!

LEARN TO CONTROL YOURSELF OLD MAN.

@Nightwings I did say it seems similar to demisexual.

*sigh* for a moment there you were engaging in actual dialogue. Now you are back to name-calling, and deciding what is normal on the basis of what you feel comfortable with. You may find as you get older that things are far from that simple.

Let's stop here. You can have the last word if you want to; I'm done.

@ThePatientAnarchist What I am doing, is telling you what is and isn't normal for young women. Old men who feel sexual attraction towards young women, is NOT viewed as normal, BY young women. Young women as young as 13 years old, spot men like you, and consider you different from other men, and from other people in general.

I totally realize that that's not what you wanted to hear ok, but that's the truth. Young women do not view men like you as any other person, yes we can feel that there's something off about you right away.

@ThePatientAnarchist Also it's so weird that you talk about how I can understand this better when I'm older, when you as an old man is talking about your attraction towards younger women. You are literally saying to a woman that she would understand why an old man is into her, better, if she was old. Like what. You are so confused, you are in so much denial.