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SteelHands · 61-69, M
Language has limits. It cannot describe accurately the many different ways, either collectively or individually, in uniqueness or experiential depth, that the many kinds of experiences that humans know.
To describe even one might require as many thousands of page volumes as there are different in as many populations, eras, and population sizes.
Its absurd to be so filled with simple minded arrogance to assert otherwise.
That's why it's called the hard question.
To describe even one might require as many thousands of page volumes as there are different in as many populations, eras, and population sizes.
Its absurd to be so filled with simple minded arrogance to assert otherwise.
That's why it's called the hard question.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@SteelHands
Language is all we have and all we are. Without words, we can't think!
Language has limits. It cannot describe accurately the many different ways, either collectively or individually, in uniqueness or experiential depth, that the many kinds of experiences that humans know.
Language is all we have and all we are. Without words, we can't think!
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@sree251 That is only true in the first dimension of thinking. The second level is also mainly dependent on language as well, however the third opens the mind to the question. This is where most academics are halted by the covers and binders of books.
There are junctions between language and imagery. Tangents and vectors that transport thought far far beyond the abstraction of words outside of the standardized so called laws of physics.
Without which the complex mechanisms and theoretical equations are formulated and often derive solutions.
Alphanumerics are absolutely foundational to the ability to converge more than one cerebellum to proceed in some action or comprehensio conveyance , but the prehistorical fundamental have been for millennia, a specie or genomic habituated trait.
I understand if you disagree since i might not know better myself if I was introduced to this concept by a mere violinist or metal forger, be they a master at their trade or not. However others have already said long ago what I'm trying again to say with a little better command of the dictionary.
There are junctions between language and imagery. Tangents and vectors that transport thought far far beyond the abstraction of words outside of the standardized so called laws of physics.
Without which the complex mechanisms and theoretical equations are formulated and often derive solutions.
Alphanumerics are absolutely foundational to the ability to converge more than one cerebellum to proceed in some action or comprehensio conveyance , but the prehistorical fundamental have been for millennia, a specie or genomic habituated trait.
I understand if you disagree since i might not know better myself if I was introduced to this concept by a mere violinist or metal forger, be they a master at their trade or not. However others have already said long ago what I'm trying again to say with a little better command of the dictionary.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@sree251 For decades I wasn't aware that most people's thinking was done in words. Once I found out I was very , very very relieved that they were not all merely a bit unintelligent but simply intelligent in a way that blinded both of us to one another's intellectual disconcurrences.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@SteelHands
What do you mean by second and third level of thinking? Is English your first language?
Different cultures have other concepts inaccesible to the western mind. We just don't have those ideas. Western translation of eastern philosophy produces western perception of the eastern mind. This has resulted in unbridgeable geopolitical division. For example, western society based on the idea of the individual practices democracy. Eastern society based on the family structure practices socialism.
That is only true in the first dimension of thinking. The second level is also mainly dependent on language as well, however the third opens the mind to the question. This is where most academics are halted by the covers and binders of books.
What do you mean by second and third level of thinking? Is English your first language?
Different cultures have other concepts inaccesible to the western mind. We just don't have those ideas. Western translation of eastern philosophy produces western perception of the eastern mind. This has resulted in unbridgeable geopolitical division. For example, western society based on the idea of the individual practices democracy. Eastern society based on the family structure practices socialism.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@SteelHands
Yes, this is true for "first dimension" thinking. Every word or symbol (in math) represent an idea. I don't understand what you meant about second and third level of thinking.
To me, there seems to be only one level of thinking: the basic level where words/symbols are used to represent ideas of things (i.e. objects, people, places) or intellectual concepts (i.e. God, love, etc.).
Beyond thinking at the basic level, there is contemplation or reflective inquiry into the nature of first level thinking and existence of things including the thinker itself.
For decades I wasn't aware that most people's thinking was done in words.
Yes, this is true for "first dimension" thinking. Every word or symbol (in math) represent an idea. I don't understand what you meant about second and third level of thinking.
To me, there seems to be only one level of thinking: the basic level where words/symbols are used to represent ideas of things (i.e. objects, people, places) or intellectual concepts (i.e. God, love, etc.).
Beyond thinking at the basic level, there is contemplation or reflective inquiry into the nature of first level thinking and existence of things including the thinker itself.