Why are men more bad than women?
Why is it that women are "the good" and us men are "the bad?"
51-55, M
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infiniterealism · 51-55, M
@swirlie So that means that we are dumber lol.
infiniterealism · 51-55, M
@swirlie Yes I see what you are saying. Women have a different approach to things and don't get caught up in the process which prevents you from observing whenever they do something bad.
infiniterealism · 51-55, M
@swirlie lol.
infiniterealism · 51-55, M
@swirlie Thanks very much for trying so hard to explain this. I greatly appreciate it. I learn something form you here. I learned a lot from this post.
CharlieZ · 70-79, M
@swirlie Yes.
I do not find true that "...men lie more but women do it quite better"
In my curious and only speculative question I was wondering if you did.
English is not my first language nor I´m exposed to it in my country.
That may explain part of my wrong understanding of your post.
I do not find true that "...men lie more but women do it quite better"
In my curious and only speculative question I was wondering if you did.
English is not my first language nor I´m exposed to it in my country.
That may explain part of my wrong understanding of your post.
infiniterealism · 51-55, M
@swirlie No lol. I have lived a life of fear because I am a man. I did not want to be accused of the things that men are normally being accused of. I tried hard to be good but I am still afraid that people will think that I am bad.
swirlie · 31-35, F
@CharlieZ
I do not find true that "...men lie more but women do it quite better"
In my curious and only speculative question I was wondering if you did.
English is not my first language nor I´m exposed to it in my country.
That may explain part of my wrong understanding of your post.
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Ok, that is no problem, Charlie... I understand your situation now.
To be honest, men and women have similar motives in life.. we each want something.
Men and women will lie only when they think that 'truth' is not powerful enough.
So men and women will lie to add 'more power' to their argument or their desire for something.
The problem is, when men lie, they don't care too much about how it looks if they get caught lying.
But if women lie, we only care about how it makes us look IF we get caught lying.
Therefore, when women lie, we make a lie sound like the truth in our effort to make someone else think that our deception is actually someone else's reality. Therefore, we don't actually get caught lying, but instead are blamed for not having an understanding of the reality we just invented. Therefore again, we are viewed as good and not bad, as well as misunderstood and probably dumb. But at least we never got caught lying.[/c]
I do not find true that "...men lie more but women do it quite better"
In my curious and only speculative question I was wondering if you did.
English is not my first language nor I´m exposed to it in my country.
That may explain part of my wrong understanding of your post.
[c=#008099]
Ok, that is no problem, Charlie... I understand your situation now.
To be honest, men and women have similar motives in life.. we each want something.
Men and women will lie only when they think that 'truth' is not powerful enough.
So men and women will lie to add 'more power' to their argument or their desire for something.
The problem is, when men lie, they don't care too much about how it looks if they get caught lying.
But if women lie, we only care about how it makes us look IF we get caught lying.
Therefore, when women lie, we make a lie sound like the truth in our effort to make someone else think that our deception is actually someone else's reality. Therefore, we don't actually get caught lying, but instead are blamed for not having an understanding of the reality we just invented. Therefore again, we are viewed as good and not bad, as well as misunderstood and probably dumb. But at least we never got caught lying.[/c]
infiniterealism · 51-55, M
@swirlie To admit the truth that I find women to be very attractive and to be able to admire their beauty without being accused of being some looser disgusting perv and creep lol. Women beauty is much more than just sexual there's something that cannot be expressed in words. In other words it's more than just physical. But I think that I may have been a little different than a typical guy.
swirlie · 31-35, F
@infiniterealism
To admit the truth that I find women to be very attractive...
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But what makes you think that women will think you are ..a loser, a pervert, a creep... just because you have the courage to say to a woman what you think?
This next statement is not about me, but more about my support for you as a male.. I spend a lot of time at the beach, on the water, in nautical situations from a business perspective and I will have complete strangers walk right up to me and say... _____ about me or my swimsuit or my whatever. Sometimes, they give me their business card and that's where it stops... or if I decide otherwise that's where it begins.
But above all, I never think someone SO bold as to actually compliment me or my style, would ever be first thought of as a loser, a pervert or a creep... just because he wasn't formally introduced to me by someone else who was intrinsicly familiar with me on some level, thereby making me available for an appointment to you to speak you personally!
For me to think badly of a stranger who had the courage to approach me out of the blue in broad daylight in a public setting, would never cross my mind.
Now, when I was in university and most guys were both drunk and intimidated around any women at all, those same guys would say anything imaginable to any woman they saw as well! City kids acting like they were right off the farm!
But we are not talking about guys here in this conversation who met women for the first time after dad released them from the farm to go get educated! We are talking about you, a guy in the prime of his life who most likely knows better than to get drunk before trying to complement a woman on anything, right?! Therein lies the difference.
With perceived age in a man, comes perceived credibility in a woman's eyes. Don't show up in her face drunk and don't show up with bad breath or body odor either. That's all you have to remember!
There IS a difference between boys, boy-men, toy-men and real men. Don't confuse your station in life with the wrong male category. That would be my advise. [/c]
To admit the truth that I find women to be very attractive...
[c=#008099]
But what makes you think that women will think you are ..a loser, a pervert, a creep... just because you have the courage to say to a woman what you think?
This next statement is not about me, but more about my support for you as a male.. I spend a lot of time at the beach, on the water, in nautical situations from a business perspective and I will have complete strangers walk right up to me and say... _____ about me or my swimsuit or my whatever. Sometimes, they give me their business card and that's where it stops... or if I decide otherwise that's where it begins.
But above all, I never think someone SO bold as to actually compliment me or my style, would ever be first thought of as a loser, a pervert or a creep... just because he wasn't formally introduced to me by someone else who was intrinsicly familiar with me on some level, thereby making me available for an appointment to you to speak you personally!
For me to think badly of a stranger who had the courage to approach me out of the blue in broad daylight in a public setting, would never cross my mind.
Now, when I was in university and most guys were both drunk and intimidated around any women at all, those same guys would say anything imaginable to any woman they saw as well! City kids acting like they were right off the farm!
But we are not talking about guys here in this conversation who met women for the first time after dad released them from the farm to go get educated! We are talking about you, a guy in the prime of his life who most likely knows better than to get drunk before trying to complement a woman on anything, right?! Therein lies the difference.
With perceived age in a man, comes perceived credibility in a woman's eyes. Don't show up in her face drunk and don't show up with bad breath or body odor either. That's all you have to remember!
There IS a difference between boys, boy-men, toy-men and real men. Don't confuse your station in life with the wrong male category. That would be my advise. [/c]
CharlieZ · 70-79, M
@swirlie I will gladly do it.
But as those had been almost lifetime reflections (updated along life experiences), I encourage you to get popocorn if you are going to wait for it.😁
Not as the main "title" of my thoughts but as one of it´s points, I see that about not all but some important stuff, men and women have a different symbolic relationship to what we call reality.
Not necessarily always a concious one, a kind of gender assumed "worldviews".
May be and probably a complementary ones, in the end. But that do not prevent some clashes about, significative ones.
But as those had been almost lifetime reflections (updated along life experiences), I encourage you to get popocorn if you are going to wait for it.😁
Not as the main "title" of my thoughts but as one of it´s points, I see that about not all but some important stuff, men and women have a different symbolic relationship to what we call reality.
Not necessarily always a concious one, a kind of gender assumed "worldviews".
May be and probably a complementary ones, in the end. But that do not prevent some clashes about, significative ones.
CharlieZ · 70-79, M
@swirlie Thank you, kind lady.
Tonight I´m prepairing my bagagge, my car and convincing my dog, as long as I will left, in few hours, this place where I had a month of vacations.
In my way home, I´ll take a pair of days to visit friends in city not so far from here and attend a conmemoration, to wich I´m specially invited, of an event of 50 years ago. I was there when I was 18 years old.
But I´ll not forget to post some additional thoughts on this, an informal "research" that haves weight in my mind and life.
Thank you for our interesting interaction.
Tonight I´m prepairing my bagagge, my car and convincing my dog, as long as I will left, in few hours, this place where I had a month of vacations.
In my way home, I´ll take a pair of days to visit friends in city not so far from here and attend a conmemoration, to wich I´m specially invited, of an event of 50 years ago. I was there when I was 18 years old.
But I´ll not forget to post some additional thoughts on this, an informal "research" that haves weight in my mind and life.
Thank you for our interesting interaction.
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