Is it ethical to want a sugar mama?

@YouCanCallMeDan I agree 100%

@YouCanCallMeDan I don't actually want a sugar mama, but "providing" isn't gendered.

Everyone should want success, but stay at home dad's are still men.

@SW-User Men that mother children suffer from reduced testosterone..

@YouCanCallMeDan so does getting older, eating poorly, and a hundred other things.

if testosterone is what makes you a man, you're going to have too many problems to list here.

@SW-User testosterone is what makes men different from women. Give a woman testosterone and she becomes a man. Her clitoris turns into a penis!

@YouCanCallMeDan it's one of many chemicals that impacts development.

Men have estrogen too.

Your ability to earn money has nothing to do with your sex.

@SW-User Men that have excess estrogen grow man boobs. They become emotional. They become like women.

I think you underestimate the effects of hormones. If men were supposed to mother children we would produce breast milk.

@YouCanCallMeDan men aren't "supposed" to do anything.

Lots of men "become emotional". That's what being an artist is.

"Man boobs" is called gynecomastia, and doesn't make you less manly.

I'm not underestimating what testosterone does, but there's more to being a man.

If a chemical is where your sense of being a man cones from, that's pretty sad.

@SW-User your sense of being a man comes from feminist ideas. I’m wasting my time here. Good luck finding a sugar mama

@YouCanCallMeDan that sentence made no sense.

What does "there's more to being a man than testosterone" have to do with feminism?

You can't just label someone something.

I really think you should find somewhere else to put your manhood.

Youth and vitality goes away, and if you don't start thinking differently about what it means to be a man, you're going to be in serious trouble when it happens to you.

I’m not going to argue with a man that thinks women should provide for men.

Good luck finding a woman to look after you

@YouCanCallMeDan are women not good enough to be providers?

I don't know about you, but I want myself and my girl to be winners -together-.

You need actual reasons for saying things.

Why can't a woman make more than a man?

Daycare and housekeeping combined would cost money, literally two salaries, if you had to pay for them.

So really, a stay-at-home dad is providing: they're saving the 60k+ it might cost to pay someone do all the "womanly" things. Look up opportunity cost.

After that, come up with a coherent argument.


I need actual reasons here. Don't just call me a feminist.

You write too much bullshit. Makes it impossible to respond to you.

@YouCanCallMeDan again, that doesn't make sense.

Are you saying you don't have the mental ability to respond to multiple paragraphs?

Clearly you don't agree with me, but I have yet to hear why.

All I'm asking you to do is present reasons for your claims. "You write bullshit" isn't a reason.

I can write less at a time if you genuinely need me to though.

@SW-User My opinion was that a man isn’t a man if he lets a woman provide for him. I tried explaining that to you but you went off on a tangent and I can’t be bothered you and your nonesense.

@YouCanCallMeDan I know your opinion. I've asked you multiple times for reasons though. Why do you have that opinion?

You're not actually offering any support for your opinion. That's the problem.

@SW-User I don’t have to

@YouCanCallMeDan Of course you don't -have- to, but you should have principled reasons for things.

I don't care that you disagree with me...

But if you can't even tell me why you think what you think, you've got work to do, not even as a man, but as a person in general.

@SW-User You’re not harassing the people that you agree with to give reasons for their opinions

@YouCanCallMeDan of course I am. I ask everyone for reasons. That's how I know if I agree with them in the first place.

If you feel harassed because I'm asking for reasons, it says a lot about you.

@SW-User what does it say about me?

@YouCanCallMeDan that you don't think about your ethics much.

People who care about being good people are happy to be challenged.

I would never say that I was being "harassed" by someone who asked me to defend my position.

If I can't tell you why I think somethibg, I don't deserve to think that thing.

If I thought explaining my position wouldn’t be a waste of time then I would. It doesn’t matter what I write, you will respond with more nonsensical questions. Or suggest your morally superior to me.

Since I made this account I’ve been avoiding people like you. It’s people like you that bring this place down.

You have a cheek to question my morality when you think it’s ok to have a woman provide for you. You’re pathetic. No woman will ever do that for you. What do you have to offer in return? You going to impress her with your superior morality? Lol you’re a joke