God and existence are identical.

Hi every human with reason and intelligence, in particular I am addressing atheists, can you accept that before anything else there is God and He is essentially existence itself, so that God and existence are identical, and anything not God is created by God.

I have discussed this issue with atheists almost forever, but eventuallu they stopped their dialogue with me, for example one atheist called DocSavage.

So, I long for better atheists than DocSavage.

If no atheists come forward, that means they don't have reason and intelligence to dialog with me.

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yrger · 80-89, M

@Abstraction

I am Yrger the author of the thread, "God and existence are identical."

Hi Abstraction, suppose you take up num 1 of my list below, and tell me, Do you or don't you accept it and why.

1. I know I and fellow humans exist.

yrger · 80-89, M
@everyhuman

This is the way I Yrger the theist come to know God exists:

1. I know I and fellow humans exist.
2. We exist due to our parents bringing us into existence.
3. They exist due to their parents bringing them into existence.
4. There was a time when there were no humans.
5. There was a time when there were no animals.
6. There was time when there were no living entities.
7. There was a time when there were no material things.
8. There was a status once in which status there was neither time nor space.
9. Now I ask myself, in that status in which there was neither time nor space, is that status bereft of existence i.e. reality altogether?
10. There is no such status in which there is no existence i.e. reality at all.
11. Because if such a status ever be, then it is the status of completely nothingness.
12. But I now exist and I am thinking in my mind about everything in this list.
13. So I conclude irrefutably that God exists as the permanent self-existent reality creator and operator of everything that is not Himself.
14. But everything that is not God Himself nonetheless is made by God with and from Himself as the 'stuff' He uses to produce everything else.
15. So, now I coming out of my mind into the concrete reality world that is outside my mind, I kinow there exists God as the permanent self-existent reality that is the origin of everything else that is not God Himself.

Let me read from you my fellow humans your objections (one objection from each human) against my exposition, in this my thread on "God and existence are identical."