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Rich delicious hazelnut coffee cream, and Dostoevsky is reason enough to stay awake as long as possible

60 hours before i skidaddle outta here, so at least another full day after a long sleep. This was an amazing reading day, got a lot of Les Miserables down, and Dostoevsky is just the right kind of vibe for a chaser, i'll do the complete works edition that begins with Netochka Nezvanova. I hear Thomas Hardy's a bleak writer too.

Question open to those in the know - who else is a good 19th century bleak depressing author?

Can anyone compare with Fyodor??

A little later came Kafka and i nurse in my belly the exquisite relishing that will be when he comes on the scene, and Knut Hamsun, and so on.

Non-fiction has some doozies too, from Schopenhauer, Cioran and Ligotti's Consipracy of the Human Race. Makes Nietzsche look like Sesame Street.

As i said to my folks this evening

"Would you like to see a depressing film?"

no response

"well depressing books are more depressing than depressing movies"

nervous chuckle from ma

Have a good night folks .......:)
DearAmbellina2113 · 41-45, F
I was listening to Dostoyevsky's The Idiot on Audible before I let my subscription expire. I loved it and plan to get the paperback since I can't finish the audio book.

I find all Russian literature pretty bleak, but that's actually part of what makes it so interesting to me. I don't need all sunshine all the time. Lol
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@DearAmbellina2113 Balance is key :)
you are a classic aesthete.

i haven't read or watched anything in a long time. what do you recommend?

be original. your list of names is familiar to me.
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@fakable For films, i'd suggest the work of Ingmar Bergman and Rainer Werner Fassbinder. For Bergman if you're interested in marital dynamics his Scenes from a Marriage, for a war setting Shame, for personality disintegration Persona and Hour of the Wolf, for mother daughter relationship Autumn Sonata, for getting old Wild Strawberries.

For Fassbinder, his Berlin Alexanderplatz in riveting, especially the epilogue, it's long though so treat it like a series. Also his In a Year of 13 Moons, Martha, Fear of Fear and Merchant of Four Seasons.

My favorite bleak film is Roberto Rossellini's Germany Year Zero.

For books:

poetry - Baudelaire, and Lautreamont

thinkers - Cioran's A Short History of Decay / Camus' Myth of Sisyphus and The Rebel

fiction - well i'm only now really getting into fiction, i can't say i really know any exceptional depressing novels but from hearsay, like Cormac McCarthy (The Road) and Michel Houellebecq anything by him but namely The Elementary Particles, with him he's devilishly sharp and can be seen as very dark humor, which also Cioran can be seen through that sort of lens also. If one is different enough from the normal kind of people who just need a sunshiny attitude to keep up their spirits.

Hope this helps.
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thank you so much for this list. I'll go through it.

i had a period of fascination with this category of filmmakers, but I am often reminded for some reason of footage from "zed & two noughts", Peter Greenaway.

from fiction... read "little lord" by Johan Borgen. it's partly depressing and 100% aesthetic.
DearAmbellina2113 · 41-45, F
@SW-User Baudelaire is my favorite poet 😍
just don't read anything. there is nothing more depressing than reality
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@fakable Agreed. An aesthetic depressing is ideal for me.
@SW-User yeah. it used to amuse me, too. then it went away.
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@fakable Might come back, ... not exactly to be amused, but to be moved. There can be a numbness preventing it to effect, which i will always fight. When a work of art, namely in literature, film or music can effect you, you can keep refreshed, nourished.

When it comes to the depressing, the world, reality is unadorned by a design, it's just mindless barbarity, senseless. People going about their business clueless while right next to them is suffering.

In art however, we observe such scenarios from a different empathetic angle. Which i love, and is life affirming, even though it's a running away from life, into a safe haven.

 
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