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I've heard some women say that trans women make them not feel like women anymore.

Imagine being that weak and fragile that even sitting next to a trans woman makes you feel like you don't have a vag anymore. If I sat down next to a trans female, this doesn't mean I'm not female anymore. Imagine having a cisgender identity that is SO fragile that anything breaks you. Imagine being that weak, I could never be like that.
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Some trans women...on here (not in real life), make a point of degrading cis women.

I dont feel threatened by other women cis or trans ...
But when i see a woman degrading a whole category of women with her own geder identity, then im offened - yes .

These people denigrate their own gender group and make trans people look bad.

Women should, as people should, be united.

Not trying to cut each other down.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@OogieBoogie Women are allowed to have all the bigoted views like blaming trans women for them not feeling like a woman anymore all they want in the world. I am allowed to disagree all I want to and that's what I'm doing here. Thin skinned women don't get to blame the trans community for their weakness, that's very wrong. People in general and not just women need to take responsibility for how they feel about themselves and not blame the LGBT community for how they personally feel about themselves individually.
@SatanBurger i never said trans womem stop me feeling like a woman.

If you need to put words in my mouth to create an argument and call me bigoted when i have made it totally clear that it is but a percentage of the trans community that does this, (and i have trans friends who agree and seen this type of behaivour).
I never made extremeist comments like yours are .

And id just like to make it clear that it is only thin skinned people who get insultive and rephrase others comments to justify their own argument .

So blame all you want, call others bigoted and scream it loud .

But your words define you, and youve made it perfectly clear wjere you land on the spectrum of bigotry and hipocracy.

Keep up the gender war sweetheart...im sure you feel you need to 'win'.

And miss the whole point of gender identity in the first place .
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@OogieBoogie If you didn't agree with the anti trans community, you wouldn't fight so hard to defend their views which you ARE doing. This post is specifically aimed at anti trans ideologies, which you are defending, to be clear.
@SatanBurger eh?
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Im talking about conversations ive had with trans people ...here !

First hand conversations with people who think becuase they have been on both sides of the cis gender polarity...they feel theu have the right to degrade all cis males ...or all cis females ...or both.

Im not talking about any 'anti' movement .

Or even all trans as you seem to think i am .

Im speaking from my experience with a small percentage of trans who now think theu are better than everyone else ....all because of their gender type.

So dont tell me who i mist be with, or not .

I speak of what i know.

Not follow antbody elses hop trend drama .
spjennifer · 61-69, T
@OogieBoogie

Some trans women...on here (not in real life), make a point of degrading cis women.

If that is true, I am sorry to hear that but I think that has little to do with them being Trans, unkind people are simply unkind no matter their Gender Identity. I have found most of my Trans Sisters are usually kind as we have often had to hide our Gender Identity and seek to emulate Women, not belittle them, more often than not, we've been treated unkindly too.
I agree we should support each other, not seek to harm or belittle someone else, no matter what Gender Identity they choose to express.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@OogieBoogie My original post is talking about anti trans ideologies specifically. I've stated that four times already, you clearly have an issue with what I wrote meaning that you side with anti trans narratives. You are defending their view.

It's my fault for assuming that you were better than that so I take full responsibility.
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@SatanBurger just because a concept is part of an ideology does not necessarily make it exclusive .

Just because an idea is one expressed by extremists does not make others who talk about similar things , extremeists.

And you dont get to decide who i am.

I know who i am.

It is you who took comments i made ....pushed them to extremes , put words in my mouth , and made assumptions that werent true, and feel you can judge me on your own misconceptions youve concocted.

Thats your choice .

But it is extremeist style thinking that is the poison that creates this conflict in the beginning .
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@OogieBoogie I wrote this post and my original post is aimed at women who are thin skinned enough to blame the trans community for how they feel as women. They blame the trans community, that's weak and thin skinned to put blame on anyone else for YOUR emotions, this goes back to my original point.

What are you doing here if you're NOT defending that viewpoint since this is what my post was all about?
@SatanBurger i'm here explaining, and now defending my experience, which relates to why some people can get upset about trans women.

People are alowed to sit in the grey zone, or have personal opinions derived from experience.


Not everyone is purely anti/for something.

Life is a whole lotta grey shades.

I have experiences with trans women that nearly hurt my view of trans women as a whole.

Its valid .
It relates .

Im sorry its not extremist enough for you to be valid .
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@OogieBoogie From my viewpoint, I began this post with ONLY talking about ONE thing, how the anti trans community is blaming trans females for cisgenders not feeling female anymore. It's that simple, I was specifically talking about a SPECIFIC viewpoint.

Then you got to be like "oh trans females did this or that to me" etc. this has nothing to do with the specifics of my post. Trans females make you not feel female anymore because some of them did something to you? I mean, what is your point honestly?
@SatanBurger actually, you began this post talking about
some women say that trans women make them not feel like women anymore
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There was no mention of an 'anti-trans community'

And my experience sorta fits into this topic, as i saw a trans woman make a post attacking cis women and trying to make them seem less of a woman than a trans one .

And When anyone umfairly attacks my fellow gender i defend them.

Its seems you are fixated on blame and accusation instead of coherent debate or discussion.

Its not my fault you werent clear in the beginning and feel the need to blame me for not sticking to a topic you never put in your title.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@OogieBoogie It's only the anti trans community which makes anti trans comments, you see it all the time on here, often from profiles that say other really bad things about not just trans but the gay community as well.
@SatanBurger some people just need to hate on others .

Its so sad .

Its driven by self hate.

Religious people do it in the most passive/aggressive way ...political people do it ....just coz they need shove their frustration some where.

I think its sheer jealousy.

They hate seeing people be free and be themselves, all coz they dont have the courage to be open hearted towards others, let alone themselves .