Simone Weil was a rich Belguim philosopher [I Don't Like Poverty]

@Kwek00 what do you mean

@Kwek00 incomprehensive love can strike us as weird.

@assemblingaknob She was born in Paris (France), her parents were French, she grew up (had her youth) in Belgium. Probably the french part, because of the language territory Wallonia/Brussels and the French have a bit of link. But later on she went back to Paris. Her nationality is French, she isn't a Belgian.

[b]EDIT:[/b] Since she lived between 1909 and 1943, Brussels was largely dutch speaking for as far as I'm aware. But the higher class, did speak French, French was kind of a way to distinguish themselves from what was perceived back then as the "ignorant" dutch speaker. It was a class thing.

@Kwek00 what do you think about her work though?

@Elevatorpitches I didn't read her work. Untill now I never learned of her. Because the post read "Belgian", I thought I missed something. It's not that I know every famous Belgian, but it's a small country and the more known figures are still prevalent in our culture. So first I felt ashamed, but now I understand where my ignorance comes from, she is french. I don't know what she wrote or what she stood for. I just read a small part of the dutch, french and english wiki, that's why I know she ain't Belgian.

@Kwek00 I meant what did you mean by this being a weird case.

@assemblingaknob
[quote]and she wouldn't take any more than the poorest person could give her so she starved to death,[/quote]

You don't think this is a bit weird?
From the quick look I took at the pages, she was also a "mystic". Not read into why she was considered that, but mystics are ussually a bit weird or strange. I know weird sometimes has a negative conjunctation, but I don't really hold that sentiment. Maybe I use the word wrong.

@Elevatorpitches She also died when she was 34 years old.

@Kwek00 oh. Yeah I'd say it would require super mental strength for someone to accept starving for so long that they'd die. But doesn't that also speak of true altruism? That Nietzsche claimed didn't exist? That is why I found this post quite interesting.
Also your comment, because it's very much a fact, that true altruism is considered crazy, abnormal, insane...and the person a fool.

@assemblingaknob I'm watching football now, so I'm not reading. But maybe I'll let you know later. If I read the french wikipedia page, then I think the version in the main post is a bit short on information and in a way a bit romantic.

She was a Marxist Socialist and apperently felt connected to the working class and the peasantry. And she engaged in activism to better the social situation of the poor and the oppressed. She caught Tubercolosis. And her dead seemed to have been romanticised.

@assemblingaknob remember the Jesus story?

@Elevatorpitches When I wrote down that her dead seemed to have been romanticised... Jesus came to mind.

@Kwek00 we are insane to cut ourselves off so much from the realities of life

most people are suffering and some are lucky

and the animals??? can't even speak 4 themselves

@Elevatorpitches Well there are people that are extremely empathic, and they egnage into activism to wake people up. But that mentality, how nice it might be, also does something to a human being and those effects can have a ver dark side.

What I was talking about though, was that people that are "remarkable" in a certain way, and get some admiration or followers. Well, their life story gets retold so manny times, and it gets better every time... And after a couple of retellings they wake up from the death or ride a white horse up to heaven or escape to Argentina. We are in 2021 and you still find people that believe Elvis is still alive, Hitler gets spotted from time to time and 2-Pac Shakur is probably having a party nearby.

@Kwek00 you're a cutie😆

@Elevatorpitches I'm not sure about that. A lot of people canceled me already. Cancel culture is pretty hardcore sometimes.

@Kwek00 Someone here asked "why are women moody?" and I said cause they care about life and life isnt a walk in the park.

@Elevatorpitches Nah, women are just moody sometimes. Men have it too. Can be all sorts of reasons. I'm ot sure if women would be more moody then males honestly. Not sure if there is any data on that.

@Kwek00 you are too light for me at the moment, listening about Simone Weil and now one of her books..

later maybe

@Kwek00 nice. I totally understand.

@Elevatorpitches [quote]most people are suffering and some are lucky[/quote]

I like those words.

@assemblingaknob Yeah, this idea that she didn't eat out of protest or out of idealism is contested. There are apperently diffrent versions on what happened during her last days. What we do know was that she was in the hospital, really sick and had Tuberculosis.

@Kwek00 The people discussing her on the couple vids I saw noted that people focused more on her oddities than her spirit. As if the oddities and her other sufferings NULIFIED her message

Nietzsche became mad after seeing man-made animal suffering in the streets, and some say he had syphilis too. As if to sneer at him for his weaknesses instead of being in awe of his compassion.

@assemblingaknob Thank you.

@Elevatorpitches Nietzsches' message can be found in his writings. Nietzsche had his own problems, but the man did go absolutely mad at the end of his career. He had a nervous break down and ended up mentally insane. His message btw, was first used in what they call the conservative revolution in Germanny and used by the NAZIs. And just like Heideger [i](who was also really influenced by Nietzsche)[/i] is used by far right organisation in Germanny and Austria today.

I think you are a romantic, and that's okay. But that doesn't make all the romantic narratives real.

@Kwek00 I just saw this, apologies for missing it last months

Look I don't know the story well I was just repeating one source. In his writings its not hard to see the humanitarianism and to feel it, but if he wasn't and became something else for real I just wouldn't know. And I'm not a romantic lord knows... but I would wanna know more about that family rift and what it really was all about.

I also go insane at the sight of of mindless animal abuse