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All the evolutionists

How do you explain the immense pleasure we get in procreational activities? To me, that sounds like a plan of the creator to populate the planet like perks for population.
Actually, evolution explains that perfectly! Those early mammals who, due to small variations in physiology or whatever, experienced more pleasure in procreation did so more rapidly, and came to dominate the population.

The explanation for the pleasures of procreation is similar to the explanation for the peacock's tail and other displays that carry a cost. Sexual preferences AKA sexual selection explain a whole bunch of behaviors and physical characteristics in nature.

You can read a lot more about sexual selection in the book [i]Why Is Sex Fun? The Evolution of Human Sexuality[/i] by Jared Diamond.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
That's my point. Pair bonding in humans is the strategy in the vast majority of cases.

Again, I'm looking at the vast majority of human existence where we were hunter gatherers.
@HoraceGreenley [quote]Those features include a long-term pair relationship (marriage), coexistence of economically cooperating pairs within a shared communal territory, provision of parental care by fathers as well as by mothers,[/quote]
Pair bonding is not rare in the animal world or even among primates. Cooperating within a shared communal territory is not rare in the animal world. provision of parental care by fathers as well as by mothers is not rare in the animal world. Sex for pleasure is not rare in the animal world.

As i said, Humans have a few strategies and they overlap with strategies found in other mammals, especially primates. None of the human strategies or behaviors is unique; rarity comes when you do the whole Venn diagram.

Heck, if you really want uniqueness, add in hairlessness and molar count and maybe you can get there. But no strategy or behavior is by itself unique to humans.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
I wasn't suggesting that human reproductive strategy was unique.

What is unique is how humans engage in the strategy of pair bonding.

Humans engage in recreational sex, which is a very rare trait. Humans are the only species to engage in sex during pregnancy.

These, and other reasons, make humans unique.
Richard65 · M
That's not what your wife says...
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
I'm going to assume this post is a joke.
TrashCat · M
What? 😂

Using that same logic, I enjoy getting my wiener sucked by another guy and visa versa. To me that sounds like the divine creator is trying to give women a break from the onslaught of predatory males and keeping the population at bay without having to create another flood
Traingut · 41-45, M
@TrashCat No, The divine God kept limited resources for limited people but by finding alternates, we multiplied exponentially. So, it's just the natural way of depopulation and stabilizing the planet so more men would like men.
RedBaron · M
@TrashCat Or just another evolutionary outcome.
Spotpot · 41-45, M
The bible should not be taken literally.
Pfuzylogic · M
Go for the heart of the matter. Evolution lives and dies by the Cambrian explosion and the impossibility of creating so many species in the “millions” of years allotted because they believe in big bang also.
This is pre 21st century science so let them believe what they believe and don’t understand.
DrWatson · 70-79, M
Wouldn't it also make sense that a species that did not get pleasure from sex would die out, and ones that did get pleasure would proliferate? It seems to me that "pleasure from sex" is an evolutionary advantage.
Traingut · 41-45, M
@DrWatson You don't know what you are talking. Right?
TrashCat · M
The creator doesn't need two people to populate earth Here's the proof according to the Bible
RedBaron · M
@TrashCat Immaculate conception and resurrection are the two pillars of Christianity that are actually myths.

How an entire theology built on a foundation of sand could thrive as such is totally amazing.
TrashCat · M
@RedBaron Desperation actually
or a natural choice,, like seeking food or heat.
those that do not like the procreative act will be out performed by those that do
@Traingut the beauty, is on our mind and perceptions. this [i]to me[/i] is true from molecules to large scale cosmic structures
Traingut · 41-45, M
@SatyrService But the symmetricity is not in our mind. It's for real.
It indicates a malevolent "creator", because while one sex experiences pleasure all the time in the act of procreation, the other only experiences it [b]sometimes[/b] and is the only one whose very life is endangered in completing the process. 😬
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
could poke holes in theory of evolution all day; if everything "evolves" to adapt to the environment, why are we spending so much time trying to adapt the environment to suit us?

shouldn't we just spontaneously evolve to withstand higher ambient temperatures?

and you'd think in the billions of years they claim we've been around, we'd have evolved and grown wings by now... 🤔
Gloomy · F
So what about anal sex then?
RedBaron · M
Better yet, it’s the logical result of evolution.

Have you gone to college and read actual books?
Traingut · 41-45, M
@RedBaron Yes. Looks like you did not read your books. I liked all these books. But if you take every word of those literally, you are just another assumer.
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Renaci · 36-40
A species can overpopulate itself to the point it consumes all resources and suffers a mass die off. Great plan if your goal is to create the maximum amount of suffering. 👍

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