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The socialists and the government

The socialists want the government to do everything for them. They want the government to control how they give birth, how they raise their children, when they work and how much they get, and whether they live or die. You and God decide your fate, not the government. You are all mad.
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They want the government to control how they give birth

Literally the opposite. We want how people give birth to be up to them and the doctors. Conservatives are the ones who want the government involved in reproduction and reproductive health.

how they raise their children

In some ways, sure. I don't think the government should allow parents to abuse their own kids.
Meanwhile, the Right want to ban parents from getting gender-affirming care if their kids need it.

when they work and how much they get

Are you saying we shouldn't have a minimum wage? Should indentured servitude be legal?

whether they live or die.

Most Socialists are against the death penalty, so not sure what you're talking about here.
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Carazaa · F
@basilfawlty89 the healthiest country is Hongkong, the happiest Finland. USA can learn!
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@Carazaa who mentioned the US lol? I'm not even American.
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I disagree: The socialists/progressives/left/ MARXIST/,/communist elements who have it nice, and will do their damndest to hold on to what they got, ARE THE ONES who want to Impose their ideas,; let’s say the re/ distribution of wealth ( not theirs/ can you see the likes of Bernie Sanders or AOC or Chuck Schumer, Maxine Waters, or a host of other wealthy of the left ilk giving up
and re distributing their wealth? I think not!
They are a fairly large part of our government both politicians and u elected bureaucrats, but are years away in $$$ from those they want to subjugate and take their money, aka re-distribution of others’ wealth.
The real tragedy is there are people dumb enough, indoctrinated sufficiently or have the I’ m entitled mentality to buy into this mentality of “ social utopia, the common, collective good”. Most probably think Saul Alinsky is a hero…until they’re broke and under someone’s boot.
@BohemianBabe Ate you saying I’m a NAZI?
@soar2newhighs Yeah, I thought you were open about that.
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GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
Man plans, and God laughs.

If only mankind knew how deep the rabbit hole went!

Soon, they will! But not just yet.

That's the beauty of it.

When mankind is ready, God appears to him and shows him only what he is ready to see.

Free Will is a beautiful thing.

Until then mankind stumbles in the dark, but even this is not in vain.

When the student is ready, the master appears.
BlackPetals · 18-21, F
Hello Emiliya. I'm Mandy. Would you PM me please?
Margaret Thatcher had the right take on socialism and socialists..
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Carazaa · F
@soar2newhighs
Margaret Thatcher had the right take on socialism and socialists..

Having lived in England for a short while when she was in office.I was appalled by the poverty there, compared to Sweden and Denmark and Finland. You just don't see homeless, poor neighborhoods or poverty in Scandinavia like in England.
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YoMomma ·
Everything effects everyone involved ..
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
Socialists are a weird lot. They all claim they are socialists but whenever a socialist government fails they deny that it was a socialist government. I mean they deny that fascists were socialist, communists were socialists and the list goes on. Question to socialists. Please point out one successful purely socialist government.
PatKirby · M
@hippyjoe1955

But, but... they said that was the wrong socialism...

KingFeeder · 36-40, M
PatKirby · M
Preach on sistergirl! Don't hold back!
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
It's a lost art of political debate to listen to what people say to understand what they want.

It's much easier to invent what your opponent thinks to knock it down. It's lazy.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Burnley123 Ever tried to debate a socialist about socialism. Don't waste your time. You would have better luck nailing Jello to the wall.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955 When Daddy Trump imposes his tarifs, you are going to reminisce about the 'socialist' Trudeau. 😝
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Burnley123 Not really. When the tariffs hit Canada is going to be in a world of hurt. It is already thanks to Trudeau's ineptitude but the tariffs will only make things hugely worse. We are already noticing a huge slowdown in the Canadian economy. It is not going to be pleasant no matter who is PM.
Mikes2025 · 36-40, M
What do you suggest may we talk?
Subsumedpat · 36-40, M
Cant we just be social without the socialism.
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
What have you been smoking ?
Sterler45 · 36-40, M
Could you specify where this is happening?
the problem with socialism. is the inevitable greed and iron fist of the leadership.

the 'human' factor is never factored in...
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
Lolno.

Socialism legitimately only means worker's ownership of the means of production.
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Socialism is just communism on training wheels
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@Carazaa never is a long time tootsie. I'm sure there were Russians, Chinese, Cambodians, Cubans who said the same thing.
@PatKirby Exactly.
You and God decide your fate

Nope. God. Destiny BTW
emiliya · 22-25, F
@BritishFailedAesthetic What about free will?
@emiliya It could be a mixture of both. Either way, God is sovereign.
Why bring God into it?
MethDozer · M
That is absolutely NOT what we want. That's not what we want at all. Whoever told you that is a liar.
MethDozer · M
@emiliya Okay what I believe is that private property and rent seeking should be abolished. Natural resources belong to the people. Landlords are thieves, and industry should belong to those who operate it.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@MethDozer Natural resources belong to no one. People take them, and they always want more; they want to expand and get bigger.

What is your issue with private property? A home is the place that shelters us. Humans live in tribes and have families they want to provide for. If you aren't part of their tribe or family, they don't want to provide for you. Why don't you create a commune if you want equality? It can work in small groups.
MethDozer · M
@emiliyapersonal property and private property aren't the same thing.
A home and yard are personal property.
Private property is property held against trespassing for the sake of rent seeking profiting.

The resources of the land rightfully belong to all of the people who inhabit the land.

 
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