Recently a friend said they don't believe in a Creator because they could make a better reality

@SatyrService Also, I'd like to discuss who it was who thought it was a hot idea to put the trachea right next to the esophagus.

@LordShadowfire right!!!

@SatyrService biochemistry is the level at which life forms. And no one fully understands it. But you could do better 🙄🤣🤣🤣

@Axeroberts I don't think @SatyrService and I are saying we could do better, but couldn't God do better?

@LordShadowfire are any of us in a position to say so?

@Axeroberts I mean, you don't have to have a degree in architecture to recognize when somebody's built a shitty building.

@LordShadowfire and you are comparing this to life? No wonder you say it's shitty. Lol. But if you don't know that it's made of bricks and how perfect those bricks are, how can you judge? How are you even in a position to judge

@Axeroberts Fine. I'll give you an example of some of the shitty design work I've personally observed. Here's a simple one. The designer decided it would be a hot idea to put the larynx right next to the trachea in the human throat. This drastically increases the chances of choking to death while eating.

@LordShadowfire and what about the fact that we can digest the food since choking to death is probably less likely than getting hit by a bus. And we don't even have to know how the enzymes break down the proteins or how our small intestine actually takes carbohydrates into our bodies as frutrose and glucose. It's not so simple to me. Definitely not black and white as you seem to be portraying

@Axeroberts How many people each day choke to death because the trachea is right there? The complexity of the rest of the system notwithstanding.

But hey, while we're on the subject, the digestive system that requires dead plants and animals to fuel our body. I mean, really? We are literally fueled by death! We must kill to live! What kind of psycho thinks that's a good thing?

@LordShadowfire it sounds like good stand-up material. Makes me think of George Carlin and his rant on religion. I know you would like it.

@Axeroberts Answer my question.

Or don't.

I actually don't care. Just don't dismiss it.

@LordShadowfire are you just going to come up with things you didn't fully know about

@Axeroberts I said answer the question, not insult the person asking.

@LordShadowfire that's not an insult. I already gave you an example and it applies to everything because we do not know everything. So I am finished with this circle.

@Axeroberts
[quote]that's not an insult.[/quote]
You said I don't understand what I'm talking about. How else would I interpret that? I understand that the digestive system has numerous things wrong with it, just like a tenant might understand that there are numerous problems with an apartment building in which they live.
[quote]I already gave you an example and it applies to everything...[/quote]
Nope. You just can't answer without admitting that God is a terrible designer.

@LordShadowfire if everything was good as in always smiling and happy. In love. Live forever it would be meaningless to me. How could something good have meaning if we could only thing good thoughts. This is your perfect world. Well more naive and shallow than I can wrap my head around. But you keep dreaming

@Axeroberts No, I get it. I understand. You need billions of living things to suffer in order to be happy.

@LordShadowfire well you sure got me wrong lol.

@Axeroberts I was just responding to the bullshit you wrote about me wanting everybody to be smiling and laughing all the time with sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows.

@Axeroberts
You still cling to the idea of an intelligent designer, with an agenda. Chance and circumstances is a much more sensible conclusion. Your creator is unnecessary. And it also destroys any argument of one that sets morality.

@DocSavage how would you know

@Axeroberts @DocSavage
hmmm🤔
how would we know What?
Mr Savage, is merely stating a non theological mechanism of the world
one may consider that there is no need for a divine being in order to have morality

@Axeroberts Let me ask you a question. Given the directionless process evolution has taken, is there a need for a god to be guiding it? Would it in fact have turned out any differently if it was a completely unguided process? No. Because it evolution wasn't guided, what would happen is that only the most successful specimens would survive and pass on their genes to the next generation. Therefore, we would see a world in which animals and plants have adapted to be just barely adequate to survive long enough to reproduce. And if you look at the world around you, that's exactly what you see. No need of a god there.

See how that works?

@LordShadowfire it is one theory. But why can't you see it was created to evolve 🤔.