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The arogance of youth is something I find utterly disdainful... we're all such idiots when we're young. [Spirituality & Religion]

I watch this show called The Big Questions on BBC1 most Sunday mornings. It's hosted by Nicky Campbell. He & the audience discuss important issues around society & faith. This morning one of the questions was 'is death easier if your u believe in God'

After one lady who is dying of cancer spoke so beautifully about her faith, & another spoke eloquently of her humanist beliefs up pops this spotty little imbecile who's only contribution was to say that anyone who has faith is deluded, while parroting Dawkins. The bloody cringe!

Lock them all in a cupboard till they're thirty. It's the only way around it I reckon.
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xCoinx · 31-35, M
I think it was George Bernard Shaw who said: Youth is Wasted on the Young
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@xCoinx: Shaw has a great many wonderful quotes but that is one of the dumbest.
xCoinx · 31-35, M
@BlueMetalChick: I dunno it has a a certain charm
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@xCoinx: It just sounds stupid and resentful, like someone who is bitter at being old and has some sort of conceited disdain for younger people. He had so many quotes which were much better.
Sonnet · 41-45, F
@BlueMetalChick: you'll understand it when you're older... I sound like an asshole. Lol! But I don't mean to, honestly. The quote is about time & how we use it
xCoinx · 31-35, M
@BlueMetalChick: No I don't read it that that, I think the quote means in youth there is so much passion, potential and naive optimism and it's only when you no longer have those things that you understand how valuable they are.
It's a statement about how those very traits of youth that make youth what it is and the wisdom and patience that come with age are so at odds with those youthful traits that the two are incompatible which is the tragedy
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@Sonnet: Which is a way of saying "You'll become a bored, jaded, unfulfilled adult just like me." I'm already an adult. A young one, yes, but an adult nonetheless. And because I do not have mundane self hatred problems, I will recognize that I was a very resilient and incredibly strong person in as a child and a teenager. I did what most members of the human race could not. And if you think that's stupid, then you must be an incredibly miserable and cynical person with absolutely no life in your soul.
Sonnet · 41-45, F
@BlueMetalChick: I must, must I? 😂

No, that quote is about the speed with which time passes & what we as individuals do with that time. Like for example time should feel like it's passing quicker now than it did for you ten years ago. That feeling will increase as your life goes on.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@Sonnet: Honestly, it does not. But that may be because my childhood was drastically dissimilar from my current life. Time felt like it was flying when I was a kid but I was living in hell on Earth during a civil war in a fucked up bombed out shithole in the Middle East, having to scavenge food to keep myself from starving to death. Now I live in a big city on the other side of the world, leading a relatively normal lifestyle.
xCoinx · 31-35, M
@Sonnet: Well I think that simply 6 words can relate so differently to people of different ages and be so open to differing interpretations help make my point that the quote has a certain charm to it.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@xCoinx: Isn't that the bane of communication, though? You never can ensure that what you say will be felt the same way by another as it does to you. You know the author J. D. Salinger? He wrote the famous novel The Catcher in the Rye and The Glass Family stories. After his death, it was discovered he had dozens of fully written and completed books in a massive bank vault in his home. He had never released those stories because he had been so paranoid that his characters would not be felt and interpreted the same way to readers as they did to him. He might have written a character to represent one idea and someone reading could have construed it radically different. That upset him so much that he never released 90% of his work.
xCoinx · 31-35, M
@BlueMetalChick: I know Salinger's works very well. Once again I think that people can hold such strongly differing opinions on the Holden Caulfield character is part of what makes The Catcher in the Rye such a brilliant book.
Not to get too Freudian on you, but do you think it is entirely by chance that you mention Salinger in a discussion about youth and the difficulty of dealing with being misunderstood, feelings of isolation and the attempt to find who one is and what ones values are. For me, those are the very ideas The Catcher in the Rye deals with
Sonnet · 41-45, F
@BlueMetalChick: crikey! Well, I'm glad you're free & happy. & that you've found a sense of contentment. That's what its all about 🙂
Sonnet · 41-45, F
@xCoinx: you're absolutely right y'know! Good point. I suppose the best quotes move in definition throughout our lives.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@Sonnet: Living in America took some getting used to. I'll tell you one thing though, something I never tire of here in the United States is the fucking PIZZA. I had no idea deep dish even existed as a thing. Good lord. It truly is a wonderful experience.
Sonnet · 41-45, F
@BlueMetalChick: pizza is one of my all time favourite things. 🤤Never had deep dish though because I've never been to America. & im pretty sure it's one of those things best left to the experts. I don't think frozen would do it justice.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@Sonnet: I don't know if I've ever had a frozen deep dish. That might turn out badly. But I live in Chicago, where deep dish was invented, so here is the best place of all to get it.
xCoinx · 31-35, M
@BlueMetalChick: Yea I've visited America once or twice, the pizza over these is pretty fuckin' incredible