BlueSkyKing · M
Do you now think the universe is more than six thousand years old? Criticism of science should be done in the science section.
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LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@GodSpeed63 That depends on how well you can explain. How exactly is this difficult for you to grasp?
GodSpeed63 · 70-79, M
@LordShadowfire
Not at all difficult. Question is: just how difficult will it be for you to receive my explanation as truth and accept it as truth?
your religion
Not at all difficult. Question is: just how difficult will it be for you to receive my explanation as truth and accept it as truth?
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@GodSpeed63 I feel like you're asking these follow-up questions because you already know that your answer is going to be highly unscientific and uncredible.
Charity · 70-79
Well according to science of evolution either through the process of abiogenesis which means life sprung up instantaneously from chemicals and begin to evolve or the process of panspermia which means living organisms came down to Earth from space and began evolving..... If you go back far enough all life forms on Earth insects / sea life / reptiles / fowls mammals / are related and come from one SOURCE.
According to the science of evolution mammals and reptiles did evolve from fish, humans from a certain fish. (You know they had to separate humans)
HOW HUMAN EVOLVED FROM FISH | JOURNEY OF EVOLUTION FROM FISH TO HUMANS - YouTube https://share.google/x1nsLcscikk4PGuGJ
I evolution maybe man's way of understanding God's creation BUT there is a huge difference: in Scripture, which coincides with evolution, you see God told the waters and the earth to bring forth life abundantly beast and cattle //// but God himself formed man and placed man in the garden in the East of Eden which he had prepared. God did not tell the Earth to bring forth man so man did not evolve man was formed by the hand of God and God breathed himself the breath of life into man and Man became a living soul. God did not breathe the breath of life into none of his other creations.
Turtles seemingly evolved from a totally different type of fish, amphibian /
Vertebrate Evolution | CK-12 Foundation https://share.google/bFEpM4dnvnCz4RyQL
Man did not evolve from fish! Commonalities but separate.
According to the science of evolution mammals and reptiles did evolve from fish, humans from a certain fish. (You know they had to separate humans)
HOW HUMAN EVOLVED FROM FISH | JOURNEY OF EVOLUTION FROM FISH TO HUMANS - YouTube https://share.google/x1nsLcscikk4PGuGJ
I evolution maybe man's way of understanding God's creation BUT there is a huge difference: in Scripture, which coincides with evolution, you see God told the waters and the earth to bring forth life abundantly beast and cattle //// but God himself formed man and placed man in the garden in the East of Eden which he had prepared. God did not tell the Earth to bring forth man so man did not evolve man was formed by the hand of God and God breathed himself the breath of life into man and Man became a living soul. God did not breathe the breath of life into none of his other creations.
Turtles seemingly evolved from a totally different type of fish, amphibian /
Vertebrate Evolution | CK-12 Foundation https://share.google/bFEpM4dnvnCz4RyQL
Man did not evolve from fish! Commonalities but separate.
Charity · 70-79
[@NerdyPotatoEXCLUSIVE:
On this YouTube video in an interview Stephen Hawkings is saying in his own words before the Big bang there was nothing.
Stephen Hawking on What Existed Before the Big Bang - YouTube https://share.google/9quaTA5jf7vBkUQh0
Watch Stephen Hawking Casually Explain What Existed Before The Big Bang : ScienceAlert https://share.google/aMYsjMrKIy22rNxQL
And not seeking an answer from you but for others who may read they will what Hawkins said and explain it.
On this YouTube video in an interview Stephen Hawkings is saying in his own words before the Big bang there was nothing.
Stephen Hawking on What Existed Before the Big Bang - YouTube https://share.google/9quaTA5jf7vBkUQh0
Watch Stephen Hawking Casually Explain What Existed Before The Big Bang : ScienceAlert https://share.google/aMYsjMrKIy22rNxQL
And not seeking an answer from you but for others who may read they will what Hawkins said and explain it.
@Charity again you're just repeatedly going by the first sentence of a video and ignore how he elaborates in that. I'd recommend you watching the entire videos before sharing more, because so far all your sources support my point. (Unless you're trying to prove that your point is based on single sentence introductions and I'm right when getting into details.)
Charity · 70-79
@NerdyPotato
I didn't ignore what he said on the video plus I've read many articles concerning his statement throughout years and some have repeated what he said word by word verbatim.... And it boils down too before the Big bang singularity there was nothing as he stated - in other words totally absent of matter what is matter, everything visible, which is made of energy _ totally absent of time, which Einstein said does not exist / not an absolute.
What existed before the Big Bang? https://share.google/OrGtGDDXQt8c5YM7l
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The Big bang singularity gave rise to everything that is in existence now
What happened in the early universe? | Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian https://share.google/UC68IJWS7Z7mHoPNF
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New theories and new possibilities
Cosmologists think we can know what came before the Big Bang | BBC Sky at Night Magazine https://share.google/VABCOgXFExImnWI90
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They are even debating the Big bang singularity itself, some even say it didn't occur.
Alternatives to the Big Bang Theory (infographic) | Space https://share.google/FXSWfVheGhuMk6Wxa
Thanks for the conversation and you are dead wrong to indicate I'm just going by the first words or I didn't listen or I didn't read. It's you and your way of understanding. I've been having these type of conversation for at least 15 years.
I didn't ignore what he said on the video plus I've read many articles concerning his statement throughout years and some have repeated what he said word by word verbatim.... And it boils down too before the Big bang singularity there was nothing as he stated - in other words totally absent of matter what is matter, everything visible, which is made of energy _ totally absent of time, which Einstein said does not exist / not an absolute.
What existed before the Big Bang? https://share.google/OrGtGDDXQt8c5YM7l
______
The Big bang singularity gave rise to everything that is in existence now
What happened in the early universe? | Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian https://share.google/UC68IJWS7Z7mHoPNF
_______
New theories and new possibilities
Cosmologists think we can know what came before the Big Bang | BBC Sky at Night Magazine https://share.google/VABCOgXFExImnWI90
________
They are even debating the Big bang singularity itself, some even say it didn't occur.
Alternatives to the Big Bang Theory (infographic) | Space https://share.google/FXSWfVheGhuMk6Wxa
Thanks for the conversation and you are dead wrong to indicate I'm just going by the first words or I didn't listen or I didn't read. It's you and your way of understanding. I've been having these type of conversation for at least 15 years.
cherokeepatti · 70-79, F
Other animals have common traits with humans. My parakeets have a brain as small as a pea but they can learn human language and say words, phrases and questions and most times in the proper context. My parakeets learned how to use pronouns and even turn them around to use them properly. The parakeets will sometimes ask questions about something relevant I am doing or use phrases that they’ve heard on TV when it’s something relevant to what they see us doing. Both humans and parakeets can be adaptable given different situations. When a parakeet wants something they will learn the word and keep saying it till they get it. My parakeets will say Thank You when they want some greens. They will also say Thank you sometimes when I give them a compliment. And they were saying Thank You loudly and with enthusiasm one time when I took them out to the sunroom with the windows open on the first really nice day of the spring. I was working out in the yard and they kept yelling Thanksgiving over and over. Thanksgiving means “big Thank You” to these birds. It reminds me of a passage in Psalms that says one day that all of creation will be praising God.
@cherokeepatti Absolute truth!
Have you observed God creating humans and turtles in a similar way or did you come to that conclusion from your "historical" "science"? And why would your historical science be more valid than theirs?
GodSpeed63 · 70-79, M
@NerdyPotato
I'm not religious in the definition your used to believe in. God is not interested in man made religion but is interested in restoring relationships.
your religion
I'm not religious in the definition your used to believe in. God is not interested in man made religion but is interested in restoring relationships.
@GodSpeed63 not being interested in manmade religion makes sense. He hasn't shown any interest in restoring a relationship with me either, but maybe he's still working down the queue. My door is open for that when it's my turn, so fingers crossed!
GodSpeed63 · 70-79, M
ElwoodBlues · M
Has Ken Ham finally admitted that ancient turtle fossils are 200 million years old?? That's a step in the right direction!!
220 million year old turtle ancestor with teeth half a shell

220 million year old turtle ancestor

220 million year old turtle ancestor with teeth half a shell

220 million year old turtle ancestor

GodSpeed63 · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues
That's a question, not a statement.
Has Ken Ham finally admitted that ancient turtle fossils are 200 million years old?? That's a step in the right direction!!
That's a question, not a statement.
GoFish ·
turtles were created by God less than 6k years ago so No to millions of years bs fictional evolution stories
ImperialAerosolKidFromEP · 51-55, M
I'm afraid science doesn't belong to God; it belongs to men. Tyson makes a similar mistake
Science is true, even if you don't believe it.
Science is not true. In fact, from time to time, it's false. Science is a wonderful discipline for understanding how God's universe works, but it's not perfect. Otherwise, it wouldn't need to change, so Tyson doesn't even really understand what science is. (The more I listen to celebrity scientists, the less surprised I am)@ImperialAerosolKidFromEP I'd like to thoughtfully respond to what you said, as I think it's important, and feedback is always good.
I think I understand what you’re saying—that science is something humans practice, develop, and refine over time. I don’t disagree with that at all.
But from my perspective, science and God aren’t separate. Science is the method we use to study the natural world, but as to the laws and order we’re studying, I believe God is the source of that order.
So while science may “belong to men” in the sense that we practice it, what it reveals (the structure, consistency, and design of the universe)—points beyond us.
To me, science explains the *how*, but God explains the *why*. They don’t compete—they complement each other.
I think I understand what you’re saying—that science is something humans practice, develop, and refine over time. I don’t disagree with that at all.
But from my perspective, science and God aren’t separate. Science is the method we use to study the natural world, but as to the laws and order we’re studying, I believe God is the source of that order.
So while science may “belong to men” in the sense that we practice it, what it reveals (the structure, consistency, and design of the universe)—points beyond us.
To me, science explains the *how*, but God explains the *why*. They don’t compete—they complement each other.
GodSpeed63 · 70-79, M
@LadyGrace
Amen, sister, amen.
To me, science explains the *how*, but God explains the *why*. They don’t compete—they complement each other.
Amen, sister, amen.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
Right. I'm going to take the word of a man who believes that every species of animal on Earth was able to live on a little boat for a year.
@LordShadowfire It's not a big deal here in the UK.
Also an actual scientist (secular university not diploma mill) Joshua Swamidass proves you can have it all- evolution, Adam and Eve and crucially original sin.
Oh, and BTW I'll never agree with himre God, obviously but I enjoy Aron Ra's natural history videos.
And to add Zambia tourist guides assume natural history, not a big deal there either
Also an actual scientist (secular university not diploma mill) Joshua Swamidass proves you can have it all- evolution, Adam and Eve and crucially original sin.
Oh, and BTW I'll never agree with himre God, obviously but I enjoy Aron Ra's natural history videos.
And to add Zambia tourist guides assume natural history, not a big deal there either
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic I'm aware that one does not necessarily disprove the other, but our friend here is not. He's fully convinced that Ken Ham (who looks like he didn't evolve, by the way) is 100% correct when he says that evolution isn't real and that the planet is only 6,000 years old, and crucially that the ark story literally happened exactly as it is written in the Bible.
You, on the other hand, are capable of understanding that some things are metaphor or parables or what have you, and not to be taken literally.
You, on the other hand, are capable of understanding that some things are metaphor or parables or what have you, and not to be taken literally.
ItsMeMorgue · 46-50, F
Hey, so when are you going to accept that the Invisible Pink Unicorn is real?
ItsMeMorgue · 46-50, F
@GodSpeed63 Do you believe in the Invisible Pink Unicorn?
GodSpeed63 · 70-79, M
ItsMeMorgue · 46-50, F
@GodSpeed63 I wouldn't know, because he hasn't written a word. Now, it says in the revised Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (known as the Loose Cannon) that She is real, though the prophet of the FSM, Bobby Henderson, dislikes Her.
CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
Have you been able to finally provide evidence to support your claim that George the Galactic Troll is not real?















