In Spite Of The belief Of The Skeptics, Science Still Points To God

@Axeroberts [quote]Science is showing the complexity of life by the day. It's not even logical to believe it happened by chance because the odds of one of it happening by chance are astronomical. And there are an endless amount of these things that had to happen for us to be here. So astronomical odds times astronomical odds equals NO WAY[/quote]

Amen to that!! Thank you for sharing that, Axeroberts.

@Axeroberts You sound like complexity had to appear in a moment, complete and entire.

That, of course, is absolutely unnecessary.

Once complexity is reduced to infinitesimal changes over time then the eventual appearance of [b]emergent properties[/b] that are more complex than any of the single components [i]is inevitable.[/i]

You're also making the hindsight mistake.

In hindsight it's stunningly unlikely that I would be the child my parents eventually had. However, given that they were fecund and fertile and engaging in reproductive acts (skipping over that image), it was [b]extremely likely[/b] that they would produce a child.

To now act, all these decades later, as if the aim was to produce me personally, is fallacious.

If the universe, the planet (or we ourselves) weren't the way they are, then everything would be different... or not be here at all.

Nothing remarkable about that.

@chibs you make no sense to me. And your parents didn't make you. You are the product of the reproduction process. And a very complex one at that

@AkioTsukino [quote]There are far superior ways to acquire knowledge of God than science. Whether you conclude in belief or disbelief.[/quote]

I agree.

@DocSavage [quote]So why are you always so against sciences like evolution, or carbon dating. And for that matter history ?[/quote]

I'm not against science or history, Doc, but you are. You're always trying to corrupt science, using it as a front to uphold your false belief in evolution and try to rewrite history. Both those attempts are futile.

@GodSpeed63
What is the false belief ? You have the proof in the fossil record, you have it live and in the field, you even can see it in the lab. You see it in every living thing. If god put the evidence out there for the scientists to find, then you’re calling god a liar.
Goat herders wrote the bible, they didn’t know anything. Doesn’t it make sense for god to set the record straight with educated people ?

@DocSavage
2 Thessalonians 2:11
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

@AkioTsukino ah okay no worries i thought u might be an expert.

@exchrist Expert theologian is an oxymoron. The rule of thumb is you receive freely so give freely.

@exchrist [quote]Where are u going with ths nonsense[/quote]

I'd like to ask you the same question.

@AbbySvenz [quote]The ones who believe everything “popped in out of nothing” are the God-botherers.[/quote]

Why do you say that?

@chibs [quote]Isn't that what you believe?[/quote]

No.

@GodSpeed63 Oh, right... do you insert a completely pointless agent who presumably popped in out of thin air and use that instead?

@chibs [quote]h, right... do you insert a completely pointless agent who presumably popped in out of thin air and use that instead?[/quote]

No.

@GodSpeed63 Don't have to. The evidence supports itself. And I didn't make a claim; I refuted yours.

@Graylight [quote]Don't have to.[/quote]

This only tells me that you have nothing to support your claim. You only succeeded in supporting what God has already established, that science points to Him.

@GodSpeed63 I'm sure everything tells you that. Doesn't mean it's reality.