Axeroberts · 56-60, M
Science is showing the complexity of life by the day. It's not even logical to believe it happened by chance because the odds of one of it happening by chance are astronomical. And there are an endless amount of these things that had to happen for us to be here. So astronomical odds times astronomical odds equals NO WAY
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Axeroberts
Amen to that!! Thank you for sharing that, Axeroberts.
Science is showing the complexity of life by the day. It's not even logical to believe it happened by chance because the odds of one of it happening by chance are astronomical. And there are an endless amount of these things that had to happen for us to be here. So astronomical odds times astronomical odds equals NO WAY
Amen to that!! Thank you for sharing that, Axeroberts.
chibs · 61-69, M
@Axeroberts You sound like complexity had to appear in a moment, complete and entire.
That, of course, is absolutely unnecessary.
Once complexity is reduced to infinitesimal changes over time then the eventual appearance of emergent properties that are more complex than any of the single components is inevitable.
You're also making the hindsight mistake.
In hindsight it's stunningly unlikely that I would be the child my parents eventually had. However, given that they were fecund and fertile and engaging in reproductive acts (skipping over that image), it was extremely likely that they would produce a child.
To now act, all these decades later, as if the aim was to produce me personally, is fallacious.
If the universe, the planet (or we ourselves) weren't the way they are, then everything would be different... or not be here at all.
Nothing remarkable about that.
That, of course, is absolutely unnecessary.
Once complexity is reduced to infinitesimal changes over time then the eventual appearance of emergent properties that are more complex than any of the single components is inevitable.
You're also making the hindsight mistake.
In hindsight it's stunningly unlikely that I would be the child my parents eventually had. However, given that they were fecund and fertile and engaging in reproductive acts (skipping over that image), it was extremely likely that they would produce a child.
To now act, all these decades later, as if the aim was to produce me personally, is fallacious.
If the universe, the planet (or we ourselves) weren't the way they are, then everything would be different... or not be here at all.
Nothing remarkable about that.
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
@chibs you make no sense to me. And your parents didn't make you. You are the product of the reproduction process. And a very complex one at that
AkioTsukino · M
I have nothing against science and technology except for that it has the potential to be abused just as anything else. But I don't care if it points to God or the man in the moon. There are far superior ways to acquire knowledge of God than science. Whether you conclude in belief or disbelief.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@AkioTsukino
I agree.
There are far superior ways to acquire knowledge of God than science. Whether you conclude in belief or disbelief.
I agree.
Jimbo7 · M
I walk along coastal paths .cliffs, beaches and see lots of fossils that are millions of years old, layers of rock that were once sediments of innumerable tides .Where was mankind when this was going on .
AbbySvenz · F
The ones who believe everything “popped in out of nothing” are the God-botherers.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@AbbySvenz
Why do you say that?
The ones who believe everything “popped in out of nothing” are the God-botherers.
Why do you say that?
DocSavage · M
So why are you always so against sciences like evolution, or carbon dating. And for that matter history ?
Science analysis data and information. If god is revealing his works through science that can be tested and verified, then the obvious conclusion is the contrary information in the bible is the result of uneducated, untrained goat herders with no idea what they were looking at, and no tools to work with. That would mean that science is god’s way of finally fixing the problem of misinformation two thousand years ago.
Science analysis data and information. If god is revealing his works through science that can be tested and verified, then the obvious conclusion is the contrary information in the bible is the result of uneducated, untrained goat herders with no idea what they were looking at, and no tools to work with. That would mean that science is god’s way of finally fixing the problem of misinformation two thousand years ago.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@DocSavage
I'm not against science or history, Doc, but you are. You're always trying to corrupt science, using it as a front to uphold your false belief in evolution and try to rewrite history. Both those attempts are futile.
So why are you always so against sciences like evolution, or carbon dating. And for that matter history ?
I'm not against science or history, Doc, but you are. You're always trying to corrupt science, using it as a front to uphold your false belief in evolution and try to rewrite history. Both those attempts are futile.
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
What is the false belief ? You have the proof in the fossil record, you have it live and in the field, you even can see it in the lab. You see it in every living thing. If god put the evidence out there for the scientists to find, then you’re calling god a liar.
Goat herders wrote the bible, they didn’t know anything. Doesn’t it make sense for god to set the record straight with educated people ?
What is the false belief ? You have the proof in the fossil record, you have it live and in the field, you even can see it in the lab. You see it in every living thing. If god put the evidence out there for the scientists to find, then you’re calling god a liar.
Goat herders wrote the bible, they didn’t know anything. Doesn’t it make sense for god to set the record straight with educated people ?
BlueSkyKing · M
exchrist · 31-35
Yet g-d also sent religious delusions. That resulted in wide spread violence hndering science and the destruction of thousands of years of knowledge but im the delusional one? Ok read ur bible look to history my examples are obvious where are urs
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exchrist · 31-35
@AkioTsukino ah okay no worries i thought u might be an expert.
AkioTsukino · M
@exchrist Expert theologian is an oxymoron. The rule of thumb is you receive freely so give freely.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
chibs · 61-69, M
the universe and life popped in out of thin air
Isn't that what you believe?
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
chibs · 61-69, M
@GodSpeed63 Oh, right... do you insert a completely pointless agent who presumably popped in out of thin air and use that instead?
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@chibs
No.
h, right... do you insert a completely pointless agent who presumably popped in out of thin air and use that instead?
No.
Graylight · 51-55, F
No, it doesn't.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@GodSpeed63 Don't have to. The evidence supports itself. And I didn't make a claim; I refuted yours.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Graylight
This only tells me that you have nothing to support your claim. You only succeeded in supporting what God has already established, that science points to Him.
Don't have to.
This only tells me that you have nothing to support your claim. You only succeeded in supporting what God has already established, that science points to Him.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@GodSpeed63 I'm sure everything tells you that. Doesn't mean it's reality.
Richard65 · M
You bang on about this topic constantly in many posts, so you might say this is your Big Bang Theory. 😏
exchrist · 31-35
Also ive begun to trust no one except family
exchrist · 31-35
And whose to say they have to be mutually exclusive? Maybe g-d created the situation that allowed everything to happen. From nothing. alledgedly in the beginning there was only blackness(empty/nothing so. Where are u going with ths nonsense
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M