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The Lie: Mankind Created God - The Truth: God Created Mankind

Note that when you begin reading the first book of the Bible, it states, “In the beginning, God. . . .” In other words, God’s Word starts with God. He exists. He was not created. God’s Word doesn’t set out to prove God exists; it states God exists! He is and as he states repeatedly in Scripture, “I am.”

I explain all of this, including the faith aspect, to secularists when they ask me that question about who made God. But then I ask them questions about what they believe.

After my debate with Bill Nye (TV’s “The Science Guy”) in 2014 at the Creation Museum, we took questions that were submitted by audience members. One of the questions came from a young boy who asked, “Where did matter come from?” Bill Nye responded, “I don’t know. It’s a great mystery.” I answered, “There is a book [the Bible] that tells us where matter came from.”

Skeptics may mock at Christians for believing in an eternal God, but what do they believe? Where did matter come from? Why does anything exist? Where did energy come from? Why does time exist? Why does space exist? Is matter eternal? Did matter suddenly come from nowhere for no reason? And how do they explain the laws of nature that are immaterial? And why do these laws stay the same and not evolve? Skeptics ultimately have no answers! They can have all sorts of opinions and (blind faith) beliefs, but the bottom line is they have no definitive answer at all.

I remember atheist Richard Dawkins claiming it’s possible to postulate that life was seeded on earth by aliens from outer space. Obviously, skeptics can’t explain how life on earth could arise from matter by chance random processes, so one of their ways around this is to claim life came from outer space. All they did was shift the origin of life on earth to another planet. But then we could ask where the aliens from another planet that seeded life on earth came from? Well, maybe other aliens seeded life on that planet to become aliens that would seed life on earth. But then where did the aliens that seeded life on that other planet come from? Were there other aliens that seeded life on that planet so aliens could arise to seed life on another planet so aliens could arise and seed life on earth? I think skeptics would be happy to believe in eternal aliens but not an eternal God. And that’s because to believe in the eternal God is to accept he created us, owns us, and sets the rules. Thus, abortion is murder, marriage is one man and one woman, etc. These skeptics want to be their own god, so they will accept all sorts of ridiculous ideas rather than believe the obvious—“In the beginning, God . . . .” Ken Ham @ Answers In Genesis

Psalm 14:1

1Only fools say in their hearts,
“There is no God.”
They are corrupt, and their actions are evil;
not one of them does good!

It's foolishness to claim there is no God, as in Psalm 14:1, and not be able to prove it to be the Truth.

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JPWhoo · 36-40, MVIP

The problem with creationism/intelligent design is that there’s absolutely no [i]positive[/i] evidence for it. All they do is try to poke holes in evolution or The Big Bang. Sure, there are plenty of questions science/evolution/The Big Bang can’t answer [i]yet[/i], and there always will be. But just because we don’t have the answers yet doesn’t mean the answer is always as simplistic as “God created”. That’s not how science works. You have to have evidence. Furthermore, the Bible was always intended to be a book of [i]spiritual living[/i], not a book of science or history.

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LadyGrace ·

@JPWhoo Sure there is. We have documented over 190 scientists who have accepted the biblical account of creation and written extensively on the differences between operational science and historical science. However, some of the most influential scientists past and present have been, and are, historical creation scientists (i.e. Dr. Danny R. Faulkner, Astronomer. Bodies Hodge, Engineer, and author of The Tower of Babel. Nathaniel T. Jeanson, Research Biologist, Speaker. Dr. Terry Mortenson, International speaker and author of The Great Turning Point. Dr. Georgia Purdom, Molecular Geneticist and Science Educator. Dr. Andrew A. Snelling, Geologist and author of Earth’s Catastrophic Past: Geology, Creation, and the Flood. Even George Washington Carver was a shining example of a Christian scientist who, through faith in God, saw and glorified his Creator in his scientific endeavors.

Gary Parker, a science professor, who once dismissed the Bible as a made-up storybook, became an outspoken advocate of creation.

He once enthusiastically proclaimed evolution in his biology classes as a college professor. Now, he and his wife, Mary, proudly share creation with groups participating in programs at their Creation Adventures Museum in Arcadia, Florida.

Even Bill Nye, who said belief in biblical creation, undermines science, unwittingly praised the work of a creation scientist in his TV program.

Then we have Raymond Damadian, the inventor of the MRI scanner, a Christian and a young-earth creationist.

If you look, you can see God’s handiwork in anything you see or photograph—a canyon, a flower, a squirrel feeding himself. How powerfully, God displays His handiwork, through His creation (Romans 1:20). It reminds people about what they already know in their hearts, but suppress: the Creator is clearly seen in the things He has made, so that naysayers are without excuse (Romans 1:18–20).

JPWhoo · 36-40, MVIP

@LadyGrace The existence of “scientists” that promote creationism/intelligent design does not mean there is [i]positive[/i] evidence of creationism/intelligent design, and you did not offer any examples of such in your comment. Squirrels and flowers evolved, canyons were created by centuries of erosion, usually by water.

LadyGrace ·

@JPWhoo God told us exactly where these things come from in nature. I'm sorry you can't accept that. They are quite obvious. I don't see you presenting positive evidence of the opposite.

Science, not evolution, actually confirms the Bible. Nature confirms how vital creation and Adam’s fall, are, to the gospel. Nature shows us not just about the age of the earth, but also about original sin and the need for a Savior. It displays a constant reminder of God’s greatness and majesty, and also the results of a failing, sinful world.

LadyGrace ·

@JPWhoo You call for one iota of SCIENTIFIC truth concerning the existence of God, but if I point out the miracle of human conception and birth, would you admit that we are “fearfully and wonderfully made” (Psalm 139:14)? Probably not. Or look at your hand (or any other part of your body), which is a witness to the Creator’s brilliance, power, and love. The most sophisticated artificial hand made by the smartest scientists is not even worth comparing to the hands God made. But you probably won’t accept that scientific fact either, because you are rejecting the truth, just as the apostle Paul said people would. (Romans 1:18–20).

JPWhoo · 36-40, MVIP

@LadyGrace [quote]I don't see you presenting positive evidence of the opposite.[/quote] It's not hard to find positive evidence of evolution, it's well-documented.

The evidence for evolution has primarily come from four sources:

1. the fossil record of change in earlier species
2. the chemical and anatomical similarities of related life forms
3. the geographic distribution of related species
4. the recorded genetic changes in living organisms over many generations

palomar.edu/anthro/evolve/evolve_3.htm

LadyGrace ·

@JPWhoo Since you claim to want to weigh the evidence, then scientifically study the Bible’s fulfilled prophecies and you'll see that 40 different authors from three continents in three languages, wrote 66 individual books (that we now call the Bible) over a period of 1,600 years, and are in perfect agreement and unison. Of course skeptics have tried to disprove that, but they have not been able to and have been proved wrong every time. No other book has accomplished this, in history.

JPWhoo · 36-40, MVIP

@LadyGrace All you've got is, "Look, it's beautiful! So it must have been created." That's not how science works.

LadyGrace ·

@JPWhoo Those prove nothing. Only your prejudice against creationist scientists. With a heart in rebellion against God, the sinful human nature will continually discard any evidences for God, whether they are historical, miraculous, or scientific. History displays this.

JPWhoo · 36-40, MVIP

@LadyGrace" Through many a dark hour
I've been thinkin' about this
That Jesus Christ was
Betrayed by a kiss
But I can't think for you
You'll have to decide
Whether Judas Iscariot
Had God on his side." - "With God on Our Side" by Bob Dylan

LadyGrace ·

@JPWhoo Dodging the subject at hand, I see.

JPWhoo · 36-40, MVIP

@LadyGrace [quote]Those prove nothing.[/quote] Just because you say it and wish it doesn't make it so. You've got nothing comparable to that to show for creationism/intelligent design.

LadyGrace ·

@JPWhoo I hope you will carefully consider all the answers God gave so completely in His Word. Most of all, get into the Bible and see the beauty of the person and Cross of Jesus—who took all our sins in His own body as payment for them, and in our place. His shed blood cleanses us “from all sin” (1 John 1:7) and His Resurrection guarantees eternal life with Him. I hope you will some day trust the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior. The world says there are many paths to salvation and heaven, but God said only one path leads to salvation, forgiveness, and Heaven, through Jesus, His son. Will you trust man over God? The very God some reject, was rejected for us, but even so, Jesus still died, so that we could be reconciled to our Heavenly Father by Jesus' grace (unearned favor from God) and forgiveness (2 Corinthians 5:21). Please just give it some thought. How else will you get to heaven?

JPWhoo · 36-40, MVIP

@LadyGrace I prayed and accepted Christ as my savior when I was 12. It's still irresponsible to use hell to scare people into rejecting the scientific method. It is possible to believe in God and still follow the evidence.

LadyGrace ·

@JPWhoo There's plenty of evidence, I don't know how you can say that really. The problem is, people aren't willing to look at it or accept it.

We are all in the same boat, my friend. Some just don't realize it. We have a heart disease called sin. Blinded by the god of this world (i.e., [b]Satan[/b]; see 2 Corinthians 4:4). Some see evidence only in light of an atheistic worldview and try to explain away the inconsistencies and logical fallacies resulting from that worldview. If they are presented with the miracle of the hearing ear, they would probably say, “Given enough time, it could have arisen by blind-chance evolution.” If we present the difficulties of radiometric dating, some would most likely reply that “young-earth creationists are unscientific.” Even if we could show God in the flesh, the answer would be something like, “It’s an alien.”

God gave us everything we needed to know, in order to be saved from the condemnation sin placed on mankind, informed by the Bible, which is more authoritative on human nature than any pronouncements by scientists (although we are certainly not against science). And in the Bible, I read how the Israelites saw God do many amazing miracles, deliver them from Egypt with powerful judgments and plagues, miraculously provide water and food in the desert, and lead them with a cloud by day and fire by night—yet they still hardened their hearts over and over again in stubborn rebellion.

For the nation of Israel, it did not matter how many times God showed His power and glory or how many times God revealed Himself; they still rejected Him. God told Israel, “If they hear not Moses and the prophets [i.e., the Old Testament portion of the Word of God]“, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead” (Luke 16:31). With a heart in rebellion against God, the sinful human nature will continually discard any evidences for God, whether they are historical, miraculous, or scientific. History displays this.

LadyGrace ·

@JPWhoo [quote]I prayed and accepted Christ as my savior when I was 12. It's still irresponsible to use hell to scare people into rejecting the scientific method. It is possible to believe in God and still follow the evidence.[/quote]

Then why do you refute the belief in God as Creator? And believe evolution? We either believe God or we don't, we can't have it both ways. God said he created the heavens and the Earth and everything that was made was made by him. That's in the Book of Genesis.

I didn't even mention hell. I don't believe in scare tactics. The words that I say come straight from God's Word. If one does not accept those, then they are not accepting God because they come straight from Him. That's really a low accusation and unfounded. A person cannot say they believe in God or Jesus as Savior and not accept His Word. That's just not possible. Jesus said deny me, and I will deny you before my Father in heaven. That includes His Holy Word and everything in it.

It is time for me to turn in but thank you for the conversation.

JPWhoo · 36-40, MVIP

@LadyGrace [quote]I didn't even mention hell. I don't believe in scare tactics.[/quote] Then this whole comment... [quote]I hope you will carefully consider all the answers God gave so completely in His Word. Most of all, get into the Bible and see the beauty of the person and Cross of Jesus—who took all our sins in His own body as payment for them, and in our place. His shed blood cleanses us “from all sin” (1 John 1:7) and His Resurrection guarantees eternal life with Him. I hope you will some day trust the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior. The world says there are many paths to salvation and heaven, but God said only one path leads to salvation, forgiveness, and Heaven, through Jesus, His son. Will you trust man over God? The very God some reject, was rejected for us, but even so, Jesus still died, so that we could be reconciled to our Heavenly Father by Jesus' grace (unearned favor from God) and forgiveness (2 Corinthians 5:21). Please just give it some thought. How else will you get to heaven?
[/quote] ...was waaaay off topic. What does accepting Christ as your savior and whether or not you'll go to Heaven have to do with evolution vs. intelligent design?

LadyGrace ·

@JPWhoo You mixed the two subjects, not me.

JPWhoo · 36-40, MVIP

@LadyGrace Bullshit! We were talking about evolution vs. intelligent design, and you had no positive evidence to present so out of the blue you resorted to asking me, “But how will you get into Heaven?” Like that’s supposed to change my mind about the evidence.

LadyGrace ·

@JPWhoo No such thing is true. I answered every one of your questions and concerns. But believe it's you wish. I think you just want to argue and I don't communicate with people who resort in talking that way to me. What I said to you did not call for you to curse at me. You are very rude. You need to learn how to talk to people in an amicable manner.

JPWhoo · 36-40, MVIP

@LadyGrace “Bullshit” is not cursing at you, that’s just calling it what it is.

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@JPWhoo [quote]The problem with creationism/intelligent design is that there’s absolutely no positive evidence for it.[/quote]

According to whom?

[quote]We were talking about evolution vs. intelligent design, and you had no positive evidence [/quote]

Where's your evidence that make your claim true?

JPWhoo · 36-40, MVIP

@GodSpeed63 According to my own observations. I took a college philosophy class on evolution vs. intelligent design, and I saw the best arguments for both sides. I was actually really surprised that intelligent design had zero positive evidence to support its claims. I listed the best sources of evidence for evolution in one of my comments above to @LadyGrace.

LadyGrace ·

@JPWhoo Your teacher must have either been blind or a skeptic.

JPWhoo · 36-40, MVIP

@LadyGrace College professors teach you [i]how[/i] to think, not [i]what[/i] to think. And the arguments you’ve presented were introduced in that class too. Basically it all boils down to “evolution can’t explain this [i]yet[/i], so the answer [i]must[/i] be God!” And presumably they want us to assume it’s the Christian God, not one of the Hindu gods or the Raelian god, or the Scientology aliens or what have you.

LadyGrace ·

@JPWhoo Not all. Some teach you what they think you should think. If there is a teacher that is an atheist then that is what is he is going to promote in his class. A different way of thinking to turn one against Christ. I saw this happen to a friend of mine. There are a lot of things out there that shouldn't be taught, but are. One has to have the common sense to know the difference. It's important to know, not guess, not only what you believe but why you believe it. Otherwise you'll fall for anything.

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