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Belief Follows Truth - God's Beautiful Work

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They can't tell me that Yahweh doesn't live since they can't prove that He doesn't live. Even though they'll try, they can't alter the truth to fit their agenda. The Truth still remains that Yahweh lives and His Word is Truth.

The Truth: In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Genesis 1:1

There is no other truth besides the Truth that God has established.

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Lynda70 · F

By that argument, you can't tell me that The Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't live since you can't prove that It doesn't live. Even though you'll try, they can't alter the truth to fit your agenda. The Truth still remains that The Flying Spaghetti Monster lives and Its Word is Truth.

The Truth: In the beginning TheFlying Spaghetti Monster created the heavens and the earth.

There is no other truth besides the Truth that The Flying Spaghetti Monster has established.

r'Amen.

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GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@whowasthatmaskedman

And as usual you pull s foolish statement out nowhere and fail to back it up at all.

Wishful thinking as usual, Whowasthatmaskedman.

Lynda70 · F

@GodSpeed63 I don't have a silly god. You haven't proven Our Lord FSM doesn't live so the fact remains that It does live and Its Word it Truth. r'Amen.

whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M

@GodSpeed63 And still not a word of actual argument. You are a hollow man with a hollow drum just needing to hear your own noise...😷

whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M

While proving a negative is the hardest road and we might ask you to prove a positive that God does exist, I feel you should be entitled to the belief in your faith. With a faith, your proof is internal and self fullfilling. And for you that works. While some Atheists may insist on proof on their terms, I for one do not. I am happy for the peace your faith gives you. But until you can offer me proof on my terms (as I allow you your own proof on yours) I cannot accept any rules of law or lifestyle limitations based primarily on your faith..😷

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GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@Diotrephes @whowasthatmaskedman

Therefore, he lied when he said those things or he didn't exist and story tellers just made up stories about him to fool the gullible.

Where's the basis for your statements. Support what you say is true.

whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M

@GodSpeed63 As soon as you support a single word you say with more than smoke, mirror and your big brother Spooky...😷

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@GodSpeed63

Where's the basis for your statements. Support what you say is true.

The Jesus character said that if you have faith the size of a mustard seed that you can command a tree, or even a mountain, to uproot itself and to jump into the sea. His apostles were standing right there when he said that and they couldn't do it. And Jesus never did it himself.

He said believers can play with live serpents, drink poison without dying, and cure the sick with just their touch.

Since you claim to be a believer and have faith, get busy and do those things. If you can't then you will be like everyone else and have zero faith in the Jesus character or you can admit that he was a liar.

DocSavage · M

The Truth: In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Genesis 1:1

And he lied. Genesis states that the Earth is flat, with a big crystal dome over it, surrounded by water.

We can easily show that to be wrong. And since god was the one who gave the details, you can’t blame anyone else. He lied to us.

So now the evidence shows everything you just claimed is completely wrong. So much for the truth of god’s word. You failed again.

And you still owe me a light year.

Bushranger · 70-79, M

@DocSavage That's one of those totally infallible parts of the Bible that can be conveniently ignored because... reasons.

Sharon · F

@DocSavage Obviously "god" didn't know much about the universe.

kentex35 · 100+, M

Can you tell me why the Bible wasn't written until 300 years after the last Apostle was martyred? I know the apostles wrote down their experiences, even Judas wrote a gospel probably like the rest his only sin I've heard of was dispair/suicide but dispair being the biggie since he took his own life thinking God could not forgive him, as we know God can do anything.
So why so long afterwards did someone start compiling it as one big book? Just wondering, not trying to be argumentive.

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DocSavage · M

@GodSpeed63

English. Even then, only the clergy were allowed to read it and not the people.

What’s the matter ? If Yahweh is everyone’s god, why not let everyone read it ?
And why would you trust Moses ? If he actually did exist, he was an idiot that got lost in a desert for forty years. The average person could walk it in six days, following the coast.

kentex35 · 100+, M

@DocSavage that's true about only the clergy bring allowed to read it. Not so sure Moses existed either. He was up on the mountain for 40 years too getting the 10 commandments. What was written on the 3rd tablet that he threw down an and broke.
And everyone that worked on the pyramids got paid. There were no slaves.
. Another piece of trivia Galileo was excommunicate for finding out that the earth was not the center of the universe. Pope John Paul 2 reinstated him before he died. After 500 years of being kicked out he gets his card back and no one he knéw is alive to witness this act of contrition.

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@kentex35

There were bits and pieces of manuscripts floating around but there was no book with all of the stories until a committee of story tellers, writers and artists made three master copies in the 680s-early 690s in England. Each copy weighed 75 pounds and was written in Latin. That is the original Bible and one copy still exists.

You couldn't produce a legitimate earlier copy of the Bible written before that for all of the gold in the solar system.

Grateful4you · M

" That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence". Christopher Hitchens.

Follow the hypothesis of " Occam's Razor" and your argument falls apart.

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kentex35 · 100+, M

@Grateful4you one of my favorite quotes that I like to swing around, "A just man causes the devil more affliction than a million blind followers. Khalil Gibran.
So it tells me believer or atheist can gain more favor with God than maybe a million blind followers. I guess those are the ones that make it to confession on Saturday go to mass Sunday morn and spend the rest of the week screwing his buddies and clients, with his get because you can get forgiven every Saturday to start over. Obviously that's not working. To get forgiveness is not just saying sorry it also must include a change of behavior.
I'll quit preaching right here.

Sharon · F

@DocSavage

Godspeed63 can’t get any lower.

That won't stop him trying and, by past performance, he could well succeed.

Grateful4you · M

@kentex35 I just LOVE "Forgiveness" gods "Get out of jail free card" Imma be tortured in a lake of fire for all eternity for the sin of refusing spiritual slavery whilst Charles "Tex" Watson is given eternal life in "Heaven" despite butchering all those people. I can barely stand seeing a bug die but I am far beyond redemption. That makes total sense.

DocSavage · M

@GodSpeed63
Truth is what can be shown to be true. When was the last time god showed anyone anything ?

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@DocSavage

Truth is what can be shown to be true. When was the last time god showed anyone anything ?

The biblical God character bit the dust around 530 B.C. when the last Babylonian emperor croaked and the empire collapsed. He is never, ever, coming back.

DocSavage · M

@Diotrephes

I keep showing him proof that Yahweh croaked long ago, he still refuses to accept the evidence.

Lynda70 · F

@DocSavage He doesn't do evidence, unless he thinks it supports his delusions.

DocSavage · M

There is no other truth besides the Truth that God has established

1dayiWILLbRICH0 · 31-35, F

I have a question for you. What is your goal with these posts? Do you enjoy arguing with people? I get that some people do and there’s nothing wrong with that usually.

DocSavage · M

Yahweh is not alive. ( and you said I couldn’t do it, Ha ! ) they found his remains years ago.

DocSavage · M

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Just in case there are some who want the real truth, and not god’s lies.

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