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Belief Follows Truth

Drumheller, Alberta, Canada is considered the “dinosaur capital of the world” because of the number and variety of dinosaur fossils uncovered in this unique site. Well, this site is in the news again—and it’s not just due to the discovery of a near-complete skeleton of a hadrosaur (a “duck-billed dinosaur”), but because of the presence of fossilized soft tissue, including tendons and “dark, scaly skin” with a pebbly texture (like the surface of a basketball).
This incredible find shows the creature had to be buried very quickly, even before the skin could decay! The scientist who discovered the specimen says: I think [the specimen] was covered quite quickly, otherwise it wouldn't be this well preserved . . . You can see some of its vertebrae and tendons, and once you get closer, you can see some of its scales. The dark, scaly skin has a basketball-like texture. This is something really special; you don't find things like this very often out in the field.
Now, what could cover a 13-foot-long dinosaur that quickly (and that deep) for it to be preserved with soft tissue (like skin) still intact? Certainly not the “complex river system” they imagine buried this creature in silt and sandstone millions of years ago. After all, rivers in the present are not constantly burying and fossilizing creatures! So how do they know that must have happened in the past?
They don’t! That’s a worldview interpretation based on their starting point of evolution and millions of years of slow and gradual processes. But this find makes much more sense in a biblical worldview. We understand that this hadrosaur was rapidly and catastrophically buried during the global flood of Noah’s day. It wasn’t sitting around on a riverbank waiting to be buried! It was submerged in a deluge of muddy water and buried by silt and sand, quickly becoming a fossil. (And this wasn’t millions of years ago—it was just around 4,350 years ago.)

Science—including the study of dinosaurs—continues to confirm the history in God’s Word again and again.

Amen to that!! The Truth, the whole Truth, and nothing but the Truth. There is no other.
AbbySvenz · F
You forgot to mention the part in the articles that mention the fossil is probably between 75 and 77 million years old
AbbySvenz · F
I think he was right on both counts 🤔@LeopoldBloom
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@AbbySvenz
I have a whole playlist of global flood debunkings!

None of which are true. You can't change what has already taken place in history, Abby, no matter how hard you want to.
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Lichocolati · 31-35, F
I find it funny that the same people that call us crazy for believing the Bible saying a human wrote it are the same people that believe information they get from scientists who might I add are also humans. Let's not forget that these scientists speculate the age of these said fossils and people call that evidence.
Lynda70 · F
@1dayiWILLbRICH0
I have yet to ever see anyones mind be changed through a discussion
Not by discussion but scientists change their minds in the light of new evidence.
1dayiWILLbRICH0 · 31-35, F
@Lynda70 right...Which means there’s room for error, because it’s still mankind who is doing the investigating of the evidence. We only know as much as we’ve evolved enough to know. What if they stopped evolving in the 40’s? Our society would think there isn’t a cure for things that we don’t even go to the doctor for today. Who are we to assume that we’re at the finish point of evolution and discovery? And we all know there’s been countless errors found in the name of science lol. But I get that the majority of people would rather choose to believe in something that has more upfront answers. That does make logical sense and even though I believe in God myself, the fact that people are thinking logically in general is extremely comforting to me. Lol
1dayiWILLbRICH0 · 31-35, F
@Lynda70 scientists change their mind through light of new evidence, yes. The part I’m referring to is that you saying that, with all the facts you have, will not change the minds of the super religious people. And them saying what they say will absolutely not change your mind either. Lol

Like to this day of 28 years of life I have yet to see a religious person in conversation hear the facts and be like “you know what? You’re right. Screw my religion” and vice versa.
SW-User
Science—including the study of dinosaurs—continues to confirm the history in God’s Word again and again.

There's zero scientific support for Christian claims. You shouldn't turn your religion into a festival of lies. It's irrational enough as is.
DocSavage · M
@Lichocolati
Explain something to me Master Mind, the scientist whom you criticize, have years of training. They have the technology to test the carbon dating methods on multiple levels. The science is in a consensus with other scientific fields that support each other. You have the training and the evidence, which lead to testable results, that are repeatable and predictable. In short it works.
How does your ‘god inspired” bible compare to that ? Book one , page one, it describes the planet Earth, as a flat disc, covered by a crystal dome, with the sun and the moon ( both the same size ) rotating inside of it. It even says the moon is an independent source of light. It says outer space is water, above and below. The Earth is the center of creation, and all the planets move around it, while we sit on fixed pillars. And that’s just for starters. Those holy men, supposedly got their “facts” from god. They had no education in research, no tools , nothing. In short, either they got it wrong, or god lied to them.
What is true now, was true then. The bible fails the test of time. It is not reliable, and if you really wanted to, you could confirm these “truths” for yourself.
Taking this into account, why would anyone actually interested in reality and the real world, look at the bible, or simply accept god’s word ?
TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@DocSavage Have you ever read about How badly do you want to kill a mosquito and it escapes in between your hands. We have got big brains but what about it? How many bits and bytes in such a small creature that it anticipates your move so quickly? Do you ever wonder what is inside the brain cells of those mosquitoes?
Or for example, let us take a cell and try to find similarity between a cell structure and structure of the universe and the same structure of an atom?


Or Are you sure that the metals and elements which are present on earth, that mndlf periodic table has some 108 elements on earth. Do you think an extra element say 109th will not be present on Sun? Seriously?


If that is the case, then I do have a problem with the Hydrogen Helium concept of the NARROW SPHERE of science?
DocSavage · M
@TheOrionbeltseeker
Here’s a novel idea. If you have a problem with it, put down your bible, and start with google. If it can’t provide you with an answer, it can probably provide you with reference to someone who can.
Someone out there took the time and effort, even if you didn’t.
DocSavage · M
@TheOrionbeltseeker
Incidentally, none of what your saying has anything to do with the flood mythologies and dinosaur fossils. Godspeed63 still got it wrong, despite his faith.
I see the creationists are up to their gaslighting tricks again.
LadyGrace · 70-79
@jackieash27 Oh, you mean the childish tricks you are up to. You're the one pointing fingers at the Christians here. They weren't bothering you. Or even addressing you and the other lady here that is bashing Christians. Real nice. Real mature.🤦‍♀️🙄
@LadyGrace I've hit a really raw nerve, eh? Or is it a bit too close to the truth for comfort....
@LadyGrace Temper temper!
AiG fails to make a case for how they can tell this fossil is the result of a global flood event and not a local one.
AiG fails to explain why, if so many animals were buried in this fashion during the flood, specimens like this are so rare.
AiG fails to understand that finding one animal buried like this does not mean they all were.

AiG does not follow truth where the evidence leads, they start with their conclusion and force the truth into a shape that pleases them.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu
AiG does not follow truth where the evidence leads, they start with their conclusion and force the truth into a shape that pleases them.

That's what your scientists do, Pikachu, not ours.
@GodSpeed63

That's what your scientists do, Pikachu, not ours.

If that's true then share with me AiG's answers to criticisms i just raised.
Go ahead.
LadyGrace · 70-79
Amen, brother. Great article. I wish there would have been a photo with this, but no problem. Good job.
SW-User
So it died 20,000 years after people migrated to North America? I wonder if the natives rode them before the Spanish brought over horses.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@SW-User
So it died 20,000 years after people migrated to North America?

No, the earth isn't that old.
spjennifer · 61-69, T
Godbot post week 38 episode 1, if this was caused by the so-called Noah's flood, then how come very few or none of the abundant dinosaurs have been found in the same condition anywhere else, this poor dino was all alone and no human remains have been found near it either... Ever hear of flash floods, mudslides, almost any localized catastrophic event could have caused this Hadrosaur to be buried in silt, if as you postulate, that Noah's flood caused this dino to be buried alive, then there would be many more examples around the world, there simply aren't any...
DocSavage · M

Once again belief follows truth, and faith follows bullshit.
Don’t you ever get tired of constantly embarrassing Yahweh ?
DocSavage · M
@TheOrionbeltseeker
Tell me chuckles, do you really believe god just said a word, and everything popped out of nothing ? At least Odin was in to recycling. He used the dismembered corpse of a frost giant.
Every once in a while, some scientist actually comes up with a sensible answer to one of life’s mysteries. They take time, it takes work, it takes more than one shot. But when they find what works, it alway different from the Bible. Get used to it.
DocSavage · M
@bleach
Somethings come naturally.
@TheOrionbeltseeker



Only theory? They can avoid fossilation for millions of years?

Well that picture isn't quite accurate. In fact these soft tissues did mineralize and it was only after being chemically treated for many hours that they became soft tissue. So certainly more well preserved than previously thought possible but not actually soft tissue that never decayed.

Has anyone put them on experiment for so long?

Not for that long, but the woman who discovered this tissue, Dr Mary Schweitzer (a Christian) did indeed run experiments to see how high iron could preserve tissue for a surprisingly long time,.

Furthermore, while young earth creationists champion this discovery as proof that the earth must be far younger than we thought, it actually demonstrates the opposite.
Here's why:

If the earth is indeed young then we should be finding this mineralized soft tissue everywhere.
Additionally we should be finding the same types of tissue in everything from Dinosaurs to saber toothed cats to ancient humans...but we don't.
In dinosaurs we've found these incredibly robust molecules but none of the much more fragile molecules like DNA. Whereas in fossilized Neanderthal human bones (in conventional science, much more recent) we have been able to find enough DNA to sequence their genome!

If the earth is young and most humans and animals died at the same time in the flood, why does the type and preservation of organic tissue we find correspond to the old Earth timeline where we would expect to see more ancient organisms with less organic tissue preserved and more recent organisms with more and more fragile tissue preserved?


DocSavage · M
In your case , it’s nothing , including the truth
TheWildEcho · 56-60, M
Evidence of a young earth, flood and the Bible's accuracy
SW-User
Didn’t you do a Ted Talk?
spjennifer · 61-69, T
I'm sure the Natives who were around then loved riding those dinosaurs, beat the heck out the horses they would have had to ride otherwise 🤪

Godbot post S02E38 😖 🥱
SW-User
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LadyGrace · 70-79
@Stereoguy Hello. I really can't stay and chat, sorry. I have to take care of some business tonight and it's going to take me quite a while. I just stopped in to see what was going on and I tell you, I've never seen so many hateful vindictive people here in my life. Just childish trolls. They act like kindergarteners. They need to grow up. It's always the Christians who get bashed here, did you ever notice? And then they say we're the troublemakers. haha Oh well, all I can say is just ignore them. They don't have a clue. Anyway I hope you and your wife are doing better. Will chat another time. Take care brother. ❤🤗🙏
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DocSavage · M
@TheOrionbeltseeker
To what , then do you assign credibility ?
I admit, I have more confidence in someone who spends a lifetime dedicated to the research , than I do faith in an old book, that has been proven wrong and unreliable.
By what standards do you judge ? And how do you test those standards ?
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AbbySvenz · F
[media=https://youtu.be/5MeHmWapM4Y]@LadyGrace
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@AbbySvenz He hasn't a clue of what he's talking about. His knowledge is not reliable being that he can't distinguish his left hand from his right.
AbbySvenz · F
Some cameras record “mirrored” @GodSpeed63

 
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