Does your life intrinsically have any more value than that of any other animal?

I say no.
A life is a life and it's the only one any creature gets. Mine is not more objectively valuable just because i'm a human.

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Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@Pikachu It does. We go about our day-to-day lives with the tacit assumption that we are superior to at least some forms of other life. If all lives were of equal value, we would be gently seeing the floor in from of us constantly to save the lives of tiny spiders. We don't do that but we would if we considered all life as intrinsically of the same value.

The choices we make (and the assumptions that we live by) are based on a hierarchy of the relative value of animal life. It's inevitable. Now I do support animal rights and I am against cruelty to animals. However, these animal rights only concern themselves with rodents upwards. That is before we get to other issues; like people care a lot more about cute animals than animals that are ugly. Do you wanna sponsor a hyena or save a baby panda?

So the idea that our lives are intrinsically the same as animals is a non-starter. We value some animals more than others.

Also, are you in favour of equalisation in prison sentences for cats and humans?

Pikachu

@Burnley123

I think the issue here is that you're conflating the objective and subjective value of life.

If all lives were of equal value, we would be gently seeing the floor in from of us constantly to save the lives of tiny spiders.

No, if we viewed all lives as equal then we'd have to watch our step more carefully. That says nothing about whether the life a spider is intrinsically less valuable than that of a human.

We value some animals more than others.

Of course we do. We wouldn't have survived as a species if we didn't.
But that's not the question posed in this thread.

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@Pikachu

think the issue here is that you're conflating the objective and subjective value of life.

All values are subjective in the sense that they are dependent on the person holding them. Your stated (subjective) belief is that all lives have equal intrinsic value. This isn't a sustainable position and it's not the way you live your life.

But that's not the question posed in this thread.

This is semantics. It's narrowing definitions to get out of the rhetorical hole.

Pikachu

@Burnley123

This isn't a sustainable position and it's not the way you live your life.

Agreed. But that's not a defeater of my position. That i cannot practically live life treating all life as equal does not impact the argument that human life is not objectively more valuable than any other animal's life.

This is semantics

Nope. It's the entire point of the thread: Discuss whether human life is somehow objectively more valuable than any other animal's life.

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@Pikachu As I've said, my position is that value is a concept that is inevitability somewhat subjective. Value is an individual or collective evaluation on the worth of something, by definition.

This debate is really uninspiring and I'm done.

Pikachu

@Burnley123

value is a concept that is inevitability somewhat subjective

lol value is unavoidably subjective.

This debate is really uninspiring and I'm done.

Gotta say, i'm a bit disappointed in you, Burnley. No need to get shitty about it.
If you don't find yourself interested in the debate then you can excuse yourself without having to devalue it.

Oh well.