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Belief Follows Truth

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Belief does follow truth. We didn't believe that 2+2 =4 until we were shown that it was true. True believers in Christ believe in the Truth of God because we were shown His Word to be the truth.

Many skeptics claim that there is no God but fail to show the basis for their claim. God still lives.

They claim that God's isn't true but fail to show the basis for their claim. God's Word is true.

They asked for evidence for God and we gave them that evidence time and again but the skeptics will not take their blinders to see it and still keep asking us for the evidence. How illogical can you get?

There's no one more blind than those who will not see the Truth of God and there is no one more deaf than those who will not hear the Truth of God.

Evolutionists can't explain the origin of life but God can.

Evolutionists can't explain how the animals came to be as they are today, but God can.

Evolutionists can't explain how we speak different languages, but God can.

Evolutionists can't explain how fish and mammals breathe underwater and animals and humans can't breathe underwater but God can.

There's a lot that evolutionists can't explain but God can explain, not because He's the God of gaps as some wishful thinkers would like Him to be, but because He's the Creator of the heavens and the earth.

Man has tried so hard to change history but has never been able to do it.

He also tries to redefine the truth and has not been able to do it.

Talk about leaving reason.

Ever since the fall of mankind man has always wanted to be his own god, to be the one in charge of everything, and yet, he's made a bigger mess of things than he has in time past. It's a clear fact that man has no idea of what he's doing. God is the only one that knows what He's doing which is why He wants us to put our faith and trust in Him.

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BlueSkyKing · M

If the bible said 2+2=5, GS would abandon the logical and stick with magical. There are no mathematics in there.

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GodSpeed63 · 70-79, M

@BlueSkyKing

If the bible said 2+2=5

Why would it?

DocSavage · M

@GodSpeed63

Why would it?

It was written by a bunch of primitive goat herders, that’s why.
Same reason it says the world is flat.

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@BlueSkyKing Chances are if such people experienced every second of the last 4,543,000,000 years and saw every event that has taken place with their own eyes they would still believe in their favorite ethnocentric religious fairy tales.

Pikachu

@GodSpeed63

It says that if a sheep sees a stripped stick it will give birth to a striped lamb and that's demonstrably false.
So why wouldn't it say something else demonstrably false?😆

GodSpeed63 · 70-79, M

@Pikachu

It says that if a sheep sees a stripped stick it will give birth to a striped lamb and that's demonstrably false.

Show me chapter and verse.

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@GodSpeed63 Which part of the statement do you have a question about? Is it about the sticks or are you saying that the statement is wrong?

DocSavage · M

@GodSpeed63

According to whom?

Have you ever actually read that fucking book or not ?

Entwistle · 56-60, M

@GodSpeed63 Reality

GodSpeed63 · 70-79, M

@Entwistle

Reality

Reality points to God for He's the Creator of it.

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@GodSpeed63 You should know by now that we know what we are talking about.

Genesis 30:25-43 (CEV) = "Jacob and Laban
25 After Joseph was born, Jacob said to Laban, “Release me from our agreement[i] and let me return to my own country. 26 You know how hard I've worked for you, so let me take my wives and children and leave.”

27-28 But Laban told him, “If you really are my friend, stay on, and I'll pay whatever you ask. I'm sure[j] the Lord has blessed me because of you.”

29 Jacob answered:

You've seen how hard I've worked for you, and you know how your flocks and herds have grown under my care. 30 You didn't have much before I came, but the Lord has blessed everything I have ever done for you. Now it's time for me to start looking out for my own family.

31 “How much do you want me to pay you?” Laban asked.

Then Jacob told him:

I don't want you to pay me anything. Just do one thing, and I'll take care of your sheep and goats. 32 Let me go through your flocks and herds and take the sheep and goats that are either spotted or speckled[k] and the black lambs. That's all you need to give me. 33 In the future you can easily find out if I've been honest. Just look and see if my animals are either spotted or speckled, or if the lambs are black. If they aren't, they've been stolen from you.

34 “I agree to that,” was Laban's response. 35 Before the end of the day, Laban had separated his spotted and speckled animals and the black lambs from the others and had put his sons in charge of them. 36 Then Laban made Jacob keep the rest of the sheep and goats at a distance of three days' journey.

37 Jacob cut branches from some poplar trees and from some almond and evergreen trees. He peeled off part of the bark and made the branches look spotted and speckled. 38 Then he put the branches where the sheep and goats would see them[l] while they were drinking from the water trough. The goats mated there 39 in front of the branches, and their young were spotted and speckled.

40 Some of the sheep that Jacob was keeping for Laban were already spotted. And when the others were ready to mate, he made sure that they faced in the direction of the spotted and black ones. In this way, Jacob built up a flock of sheep for himself and did not put them with the other sheep.

41 When the stronger sheep were mating near the drinking place, Jacob made sure that the spotted branches were there. 42 But he would not put out the branches when the weaker animals were mating. So Jacob got all of the healthy animals, and Laban got what was left. 43 Jacob soon became rich and successful. He owned many sheep, goats, camels, and donkeys, as well as a lot of slaves."

DocSavage · M

@GodSpeed63

Reality points to God for He's the Creator of it.

Not true. Something can’t come from nothing according to you. Someone else had to make god.

DocSavage · M

@GodSpeed63

Genesis 30:39, NIV: they mated in front of the branches. And they bore young that were streaked or speckled or spotted.

Genesis 30:39, ESV: the flocks bred in front of the sticks and so the flocks brought forth striped, speckled, and spotted.

Genesis 30:39, KJV: And the flocks conceived before the rods, and brought forth cattle ringstraked, speckled, and spotted.

Genesis 30:39, NASB: So the flocks mated by the rods, and the flocks delivered striped, speckled, and spotted offspring.

Genesis 30:39, NLT: And when they mated in front of the white-streaked branches, they gave birth to young that were streaked, speckled, and spotted.

Genesis 30:39, CSB: The flocks bred in front of the branches and bore streaked, speckled, and spotted young.

See what happens when you put belief before truth ? You fucked it up again.

Pikachu

@GodSpeed63

lol don't you know? Tut, tut Mr. Christian.
Looks like DocSavage has supplied you with the pertinent passage.

DocSavage · M

@Pikachu
How much you want to bet he won’t admit it ?

DocSavage · M

@DocSavage

What part of supporting your claims don't you understand?

So, where is your supporting evidence ?

GodSpeed63 · 70-79, M

@Pikachu

lol don't you know?

Don't you don't know? In any case, the Word of God is still infallible and still true.

DocSavage · M

@GodSpeed63

You lost. Caught you dead on. The bible got it wrong, and you didn’t even know what you were talking about.

Pikachu

@GodSpeed63

Don't you don't know?

😆😂🤣 Well since i was the one who initially raised to story from the bible that you were apparently ignorant of...yeah, yeah i do know😏

So sad that an atheist knows your bible better than you do.
Sadder that you can't even admit when you don't know something.

GodSpeed63 · 70-79, M

@Pikachu

Well since i was the one who initially raised to story from the bible that you were apparently ignorant of...yeah, yeah i do know

I take it that you don't know then.

DocSavage · M

@GodSpeed63

I take it that you don't know then.

According to the evidence, the only one here who doesn’t know is you

Pikachu

@GodSpeed63

I take it that you don't know then.

lol with God as your witness, do you really think that? Answer me.

Pikachu

@DocSavage

Yup, i raised the example and you gave the passage while i was away so the only one who has demonstrated ignorance of both the story and the verse is @GodSpeed63

DocSavage · M

@GodSpeed63
What’s the matter ? Too proud to admit we proved you wrong ? Let’s see, first you bare false witness to facts not In evidence, now pride and vanity.
Seems to me Pikachu and I are better Christians than you are, and we’re Atheist.

GodSpeed63 · 70-79, M

@DocSavage @Pikachu

What’s the matter ? Too proud to admit we proved you wrong ?

You haven't yet. BTW, it's not me you have to prove wrong, it's my Father heaven that you have to prove wrong.

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